03-14-2009, 08:38 AM
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I wasn't asking.
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I wasn't asking.
Whoops! Sorry, I meant the OP.
03-14-2009, 12:19 PM
Location: Chicago
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In academic circles, Columbia College does *not* have a strong reputation. If you hope to attend a really good, top-tier graduate school after your undergraduate degree, you'd have a very difficult time getting admitted with a degree from Columbia, regardless of your grades. By far the best two schools in the immediate Chicago area are Northwestern and the University of Chicago; these two schools are in a class by themselves compared to all other Chicago-area schools. The next tier down are the University of Illinois at Chicago, Depaul, Wheaton, Loyola, and perhaps IIT. The next tier down include a bunch of small schools such as Elmhurst, North Central, Lewis, and so on, along with perhaps Northeastern (a public school). I'd place Columbia at even the next tier down and at the lowest tier of accredited schools in the Chicago metro area. However, I'm sure Columbia has its supporters and they probably will rebut my opinion. But my advice to you is if you're thinking of moving across the country to attend college in Chicago, there are many schools to choose from that have a much stronger reputation than Columbia.
well, I'll be completely biased, given that I currently attend Columbia, and disagree w/ you. I moved here from Boston to attend Columbia and have yet to regret the decision. no, it doesn't have the academic prestige of schools like NYU, Emerson, or Depaul, however, it's a different type of school from these. Columbia is an art and media school, so pulling in students w/ creative talents is more important than pulling in students that aced their SAT's, for example. the school is open admission, which is good and bad: good because, again, if you have the talent, but didn't have the best GPA in high school, it wouldn't hold you back; bad b/c it seems like a lot of kids, thinking that open admission=easy as hell come to find out that some of the classes are actually hard. not to say the school is a last choice option for kids w/ bad grades; there are kids here that excelled in high school and chose to come to Columbia (and unfortunately, there are kids who really shouldn't be in college going here, though these tend to get culled as the semester move on due to the work load)
as for what happens after you graduate from Columbia, yes, you can get into a grad school w/ a degree from Columbia. I know a couple of fiction writing majors that are going to grad school at Emerson or other schools. put in the work and effort, and you'll find something
I think the local reputation of Columbia is pretty good. the school holds a lot of major events throughout the year including Manifest (where students perform and show off their work at the end of the year and where famous musicians have performed) and Story Week (week long panels w/ visiting authors, many local, but some, like Junot Diaz, who are well renowned). so it's not some little-heard-of school of poor repute
it really depends on what your major is. I can't speak for any other major other than my own, but I'll say that my department is fabulous. is it the best in the nation? no, but I'm fine w/ that. if you have in interest in music and can get into Julliard, go to Julliard. if you're interested in film and can get into the film school at UCLA, go to UCLA. likewise, if you want to act and can get into the drama school at NYU, go to NYU. but you may find that Columbia has what you're looking for or that the "name brand" doesn't matter much.
I suggest you do some research and decide on what you want, in particular to your major. one of the main reasons I chose Columbia was b/c they offered a BFA in writing (didn't find many schools that offered those). as mentioned, there are a ton of threads about Columbia if you search for them. I'd tried to come out for a visit if possible also
03-14-2009, 01:49 PM
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they have an excellent film school... and that is about it.
03-14-2009, 02:10 PM
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Thanks!
Well currently my major is Marketing/Advertising, but i'm very artistic. I like that major but i want to get into a more artistic major. I have always been very interested in Film (i want to direct music videos, && get the best of both worlds), but i also like to write and i've written 6 or 7 plays/scripts although they are unofficial, but friends have told me that they were very good. So i want to get into writing screen plays or fictional writing, like writing for TV sitcoms and such. The current school i go to, the admissions were OPEN. Alot of people give my college slack because locally it has a good reputation, but nationally it's one of those schools nobody heard of, but probably the school your doctor graduated from. LOL. I originally went to be a physical therapist (to appease my parents), and ended up doing poorly. Due to my low GPA because of all the chemistry/bio i have taken that i hate, i've decided that i want to pursue my own goals and i searched and searched and from the outside Columbia looks like a great school. Are there any alumni or current students who can tell me about job opportunities after graduation, or internships and job opportunities while in school? Thanks!
03-14-2009, 02:16 PM
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they are going to move the film department in a huge multimedia studio on 18th street by next spring. I have several friends at Columbia. The film school is just blossoming, especially cinematography, though everyone I know is a directing major. I have heard bad things about the writing side of the school, especially when it comes to fiction and screenwriting, but hey, I don't go there, so I wouldn't know. But, it seems like if you are going into film than the time is now to attend.
03-14-2009, 04:52 PM
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BinaryBelle & Eevee: Sorry, I didn't mean to sound excessively harsh about Columbia, and I figured my comments would meet with some rebuttal. But if this person is looking at uprooting their whole life and moving across the country to attend school in Chicago, I think it fair to give them the perspective of someone who's worked in and around major research universities for most of their life, as I have.
I've always viewed Columbia as something of a trade school, heavily skewed toward the performance arts, film, TV, radio, writing, and so forth. However, if a student is willing to relocate across the country to study such things, I'd hope you'd agree there are much stronger universities where such training can be obtained that have far better academic reputations than Columbia. I don't doubt there are some Columbia grads that found good jobs in Chicago media, but this students long-term prospects will be stronger if they choose a school with a better academic reputation, especially in such highly competitive fields. I'm not claiming a Columbia degree will be worthless, only that the huge investment in time and money this student will be making could be better invested elsewhere.
Note to the original poster: If the VCU in your screen-name denotes Virginia Commonwealth University, actually I have heard of your school! (And you might consider that VCU actually has a far stronger national reputation than Columbia College in Chicago.)
03-15-2009, 04:30 PM
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VCUHoney,
After a year in your chosen field, NOONE will really care where you attended school. They'll be far more concerned with what you can do with the knowledge and skills that you picked up along the way.
For example, VCU has a pretty strong reputation for medical related fields. (I spent a couple of years at MCV.) However, once you get your license from the state of Virginia to practice, noone cares if you were educated at VCU, VSU, or UVa.
03-15-2009, 04:48 PM
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In academic circles, Columbia College does *not* have a strong reputation. If you hope to attend a really good, top-tier graduate school after your undergraduate degree, you'd have a very difficult time getting admitted with a degree from Columbia, regardless of your grades. By far the best two schools in the immediate Chicago area are Northwestern and the University of Chicago; these two schools are in a class by themselves compared to all other Chicago-area schools. The next tier down are the University of Illinois at Chicago, Depaul, Wheaton, Loyola, and perhaps IIT. The next tier down include a bunch of small schools such as Elmhurst, North Central, Lewis, and so on, along with perhaps Northeastern (a public school). I'd place Columbia at even the next tier down and at the lowest tier of accredited schools in the Chicago metro area. However, I'm sure Columbia has its supporters and they probably will rebut my opinion. But my advice to you is if you're thinking of moving across the country to attend college in Chicago, there are many schools to choose from that have a much stronger reputation than Columbia.
It's kind of irrelevant what Columbia's reputation is in academic circles because it's not really an academic school. It's more of an arts and media vocational school. It's Columbia's reputation in those circles that matters.
03-15-2009, 05:45 PM
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BinaryBelle & Eevee: Sorry, I didn't mean to sound excessively harsh about Columbia, and I figured my comments would meet with some rebuttal. But if this person is looking at uprooting their whole life and moving across the country to attend school in Chicago, I think it fair to give them the perspective of someone who's worked in and around major research universities for most of their life, as I have.
I've always viewed Columbia as something of a trade school, heavily skewed toward the performance arts, film, TV, radio, writing, and so forth. However, if a student is willing to relocate across the country to study such things, I'd hope you'd agree there are much stronger universities where such training can be obtained that have far better academic reputations than Columbia. I don't doubt there are some Columbia grads that found good jobs in Chicago media, but this students long-term prospects will be stronger if they choose a school with a better academic reputation, especially in such highly competitive fields. I'm not claiming a Columbia degree will be worthless, only that the huge investment in time and money this student will be making could be better invested elsewhere.
Note to the original poster: If the VCU in your screen-name denotes Virginia Commonwealth University, actually I have heard of your school! (And you might consider that VCU actually has a far stronger national reputation than Columbia College in Chicago.)
Obviously you have never worked anywhere in LA where half the people who claim to be from Chicago usually went to COlumbia. It is a school that teaches you to work in the film industry. To hell with research and academics, all the students I've talked to get real jobs out of school, at least those I have met from the film department. If you want to learn meaningless film theory class than something like University of Chicago would be more apt, but if you want to actually pick up a camera and shoot, and shoot correctly, and shoot to get the attention of those in the media business, than go to Columbia. Of course, I am not sure how it goes with other departments, I just know that the film department is more than competant preparing students for careers in the LA based film industry. I know this because when I was out there I kept running into them.
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Most Common Occupations - Natural resources, construction, and maintenance occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Farming, fishing, and forestry occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Construction and extraction occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Installation, maintenance, and repair occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Production, transportation, and material moving occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Production occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Transportation occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Material moving occupations (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - Correctional institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Federal prisons and detention centers (%)
People in Group quarters - Halfway houses (%)
People in Group quarters - Local jails and other confinement facilities (including police lockups) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military disciplinary barracks (%)
People in Group quarters - State prisons (%)
People in Group quarters - Other types of correctional institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Nursing homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards, hospices, and schools for the handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards and hospices for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospices or homes for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Military hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Other hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals or wards for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Mental (Psychiatric) hospitals or wards (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the deaf (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the blind (%)
People in Group quarters - Orthopedic wards and institutions for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in general hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in military hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Juvenile institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Long-term care (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for abused, dependent, and neglected children (%)
People in Group quarters - Residential treatment centers for emotionally disturbed children (%)
People in Group quarters - Training schools for juvenile delinquents (%)
People in Group quarters - Short-term care, detention or diagnostic centers for delinquent children (%)
People in Group quarters - Type of juvenile institution unknown (%)
People in Group quarters - Noninstitutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - College dormitories (includes college quarters off campus) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - On base (%)
People in Group quarters - Barracks, unaccompanied personnel housing (UPH), (Enlisted/Officer), ;and similar group living quarters for military personnel (%)
People in Group quarters - Transient quarters for temporary residents (%)
People in Group quarters - Military ships (%)
People in Group quarters - Group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes or halfway houses for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)