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Unread 12-01-2008, 10:35 PM
 
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The areas that you may be seeing more of it are in areas that are still up in the air where the future is uncertain. That is usually when the fences go up.
Yeah that's true.

 
Unread 12-01-2008, 10:44 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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Yeah that's true.
Much of the time when the fences go up they are put up by the long-time residents.

For example: I have a friend who lived with his family in Albany Park since the mid 70's until he moved a couple of years ago. His family still lives there. They are Mexican and have had a black wrought iron locked fence around their property since the mid-80's and it still is up (for now.)
 
Unread 12-02-2008, 09:35 AM
 
Location: The Great State of Texas, Finally!
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I find the use of the word "gringo" by Hispanics in the USA sort of ironic, seeing that the word means "foreigner" so how does this word apply to whites, or anyone for that matter who was born in the US? People throw around words like farts anymore. Just tune them out.
 
Unread 12-02-2008, 09:53 AM
 
Location: Chicago: Beverly, Woodlawn
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I find the use of the word "gringo" by Hispanics in the USA sort of ironic, seeing that the word means "foreigner" so how does this word apply to whites, or anyone for that matter who was born in the US? People throw around words like farts anymore. Just tune them out.
Regardless of its etymology, in practice it just means "someone from the U.S."
Spanish is my first language but that word has never once come out of my mouth. I would have been slapped silly by my mom. It says more about the person using it than anything else. Of course it helps that my dad is american but educated Latin Americans in general despise that word.
 
Unread 12-02-2008, 09:59 AM
 
Location: Chicago
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Ok fair enough. Now I know a new tool to use.
www.reverso.net works better.
 
Unread 12-02-2008, 10:24 AM
 
Location: northwest side of chicago
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The only flag that should be flying in any city or suburb in the United States is the American flag so the Puerto Rican flags should be taken down anyway. If you're so proud to be Puerto Rican, then move to Puerto Rico where they have the Puerto Rican flag flying all over. Even people who just have the Italian, Mexican etc flags on their cars tick me off because we're in the United States. If you're so proud to be Italian, Mexican or Puerto Rican (nobody is saying that you don't have that right), then go live in Italy, Mexico or Puerto Rico. I'm not trying to sound righteous but I'm proud to be American and I don't walking around trying to oppress and force my culture on others like a good number of Italians, Mexicans and Puerto Ricans tend to do. People of all nationalities annoy me but people from those nationalities tend to irritate me the most.
There are more Polish flags shoved in our faces in the Northwest side of Chicago than any other flag. Theres nothing wrong with being proud of your heritage, but most of those Polish that flash those flags are not even citizens of this country. Their Polish Day parade on Belmont Avenue lasts for days and they have shoved their culture down the throats of the legitimate Americans who pay into the system on the Northwest side.
 
Unread 12-02-2008, 10:57 AM
 
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Their Polish Day parade on Belmont Avenue lasts for days and they have shoved their culture down the throats of the legitimate Americans who pay into the system on the Northwest side.
How, exactly, are they shoving their culture down your throat? Are they pulling you off the street and force feeding you stuffed cabbage and vodka? Are they coming to your house and replacing your music collection with polka cds? Or, as I suspect, does the mere sight of a non-US flag just fill you with rage. If the latter is the case, you might want to reflect that part of the greatness of this country is its tolerence of, and respect for, the traditions of those who come here from other nations.
 
Unread 12-02-2008, 11:12 AM
 
Location: The Great State of Texas, Finally!
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Regardless of its etymology, in practice it just means "someone from the U.S."
Spanish is my first language but that word has never once come out of my mouth. I would have been slapped silly by my mom. It says more about the person using it than anything else. Of course it helps that my dad is american but educated Latin Americans in general despise that word.
Really? Funny, I've never heard a black or asian person referred to as a "gringo," yet certainly many of them are from the "US" too. I'm just sayin....
 
Unread 12-02-2008, 11:16 AM
 
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How, exactly, are they shoving their culture down your throat? Are they pulling you off the street and force feeding you stuffed cabbage and vodka? Are they coming to your house and replacing your music collection with polka cds? Or, as I suspect, does the mere sight of a non-US flag just fill you with rage. If the latter is the case, you might want to reflect that part of the greatness of this country is its tolerence of, and respect for, the traditions of those who come here from other nations.
Just the other day I had a Pole try to force feed me potato pancakes and pyrogies on the Northwest Side. It was terrifying, but tasty.
 
Unread 12-02-2008, 11:21 AM
 
Location: Chicago: Beverly, Woodlawn
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Really? Funny, I've never heard a black or asian person referred to as a "gringo," yet certainly many of them are from the "US" too. I'm just sayin....
It depends on the context. In Spanish people are called what they are and there is less a sense of offense. If you are fat you are 'gordo'. If you are skinny you are 'flaco'. If you are black you are 'moreno' or 'negro'. If you are Asian you are 'chino' (as ignorant as it might sound). If you are white you are a 'huero'. If you want to distinguish a native english speaking american, regardless of their race,etc. from a Latin American they are 'gringo'. I've heard the term applied to blacks, whites, asians, arabs, whatever as long as they hail from the U.S. natively. If you are in the U.S. and it is assumed that they are gringos, then another term might be more typical. To roll your eyes at the idea of a black being called a gringo though is pretty stupid.
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