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Old 12-09-2008, 12:26 PM
Status: "Fall is in the air-too soon!" (set 12 days ago)
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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Originally Posted by eevee View Post
wow, this is crazy. I hate politics as a whole, but I has some renewed hope in it following Obama's win. now that's gone. at least I can say I didn't vote for him
Why? There is no evidence that he was involved.

Feds: Ill. gov tried to 'auction' Obama's seat - Politics- msnbc.com

"Federal prosecutors have investigated Blagojevich's administration for at least three years.
Fitzgerald said federal officials were making "no allegations" that Obama was "aware of anything" in connection with the case."
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Old 12-09-2008, 12:27 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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Why? There is no evidence that he was involved.

Feds: Ill. gov tried to 'auction' Obama's seat - Politics- msnbc.com

"Federal prosecutors have investigated Blagojevich's administration for at least three years.
Fitzgerald said federal officials were making "no allegations" that Obama was "aware of anything" in connection with the case."
oh, I have nothing against Obama, I have just have less hope in politics in general (or at least the Illinois version). I really wrote that wrong. I meant I'm glad I didn't vote for Blago

gotta go edit that
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Old 12-09-2008, 12:42 PM
Status: "Fall is in the air-too soon!" (set 12 days ago)
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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^^OK, I get it now.
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Old 12-09-2008, 01:03 PM
 
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I know it's a little off topic, but as a McCain voting, suburban republican, I am pleased and relieved (so far) to see Mr. Obama ruling from the center. When the liberal wing of the party is complaining about him at the same time Rush Limbaugh is, then he is walking the tightrope of a centrist viewpoint. Inauguration day can't come soon enough for him to "get down to business".
As a center-left Democrat, I'm glad to see this as well. I knew the cries of "socialism!" were cooked up political hackery, but it's always good to see any president rule from the center.
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Old 12-09-2008, 01:08 PM
 
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Patrick Fitzgerald is my hero.
I'm glad the Bushies weren't succesful in canning him. We truly need someone like Fitzgerald in Illinois. Dig deeper, Patrick! Get it ALL out in the open!
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Old 12-09-2008, 01:10 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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Wow, hadn't thought of that. Just when I thought Obama would help us to secure the Olympics... Depressing that this could diminish our chances... Although Beijing did get the Olympics...
haha I never thought of that very true
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Old 12-09-2008, 01:20 PM
 
Location: Lake Arlington Heights, IL
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I question if this affects the Olympic bid very much. Now if Daley administration gets caught up in this it certainly would. BUt city government is very established and I think it's actually a strength in securing the bid.
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Old 12-09-2008, 01:23 PM
 
Location: Oak Park, IL
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The sorry record of Illinois governors:

William G. Stratton 1953-1961 (Republican) Indicted for tax evasion related to his use of campaign funds. (Acquitted).

Otto Kerner, Jr. 1961- 1968 (Democratic) Convicted on 17 counts of bribery, conspiracy, perjury, and related charges when Marge Lindheimer Everett deducts the bribe from her federal income tax return as a "ordinary business expense." Sentenced to three years.

Samuel H. Shapiro 1968-1969 (Democratic)

Richard Buell Ogilvie 1969-1973 (Republican)

Daniel Walker 1973-1977 (Democratic) Convicted in 1987 for obtaining fraudulent loans used to support his business and his yacht "The Governor's Lady." Sentenced to seven years, served 18 months.

James R. Thompson 1977-1991 (Republican)

James Edgar 1991-1999 (Republican)

George H. Ryan 1999-2003 (Republican) Convicted on several counts of misuse of campaign funds (funneled to his many daughters, housekeeper, etc.) and selling business licenses for cash and political favors while he was Secretary of State. Sentenced to six and a half years. (Appealing... still).

Rod R. Blagojevich 2003-Present (Democratic) Indicted for bribery, etc. related to shaking down businesses (Tribune, etc.) for state assistance.

That's 5 of the most recent 9 governors indicted.
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Old 12-09-2008, 01:29 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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That's 5 of the most recent 9 governors indicted.
But can we at least be proud of the record of Presidents from Illinois.... Lincoln... Reagan... Obama? Trying to look on the bright side...
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Old 12-09-2008, 01:38 PM
 
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While I am positively giddy at this news, I am also rather saddened that this is something we are so happy about. Especially since this is now two in a row.
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