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Unread 01-30-2009, 05:59 PM
 
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I should correct that, most artistic people.
Thats not really true. Are you talking about honest to goodness artists, or "artistic people" (i.e. hipsters, trend followers, etc)?

LA and NY both have a higher cost of living. Most artists arent rich, and need to live in an area they can afford with ample work space. This is becoming increasingly difficult on the coasts.

Now if you're talking about acting, then yes most do have to wind up going to LA since thats where the opportunities exist. But even in that case there is a significant amount of talent (take improv, for instance) which incubates out of Chicago before moving on.
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Unread 02-12-2009, 11:42 AM
 
Location: Roscoe Village Chicago, IL
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1) I don't like how there are so many fans of other teams when you go to some sporting events. For example, the Cardinals games. I know that there are a lot that drive here from St. Louis but there are also a lot that live here. But I take it as a compliment that people would move here.

2) Chicago Public Schools. One of the first steps in order to improving poorer neighborhoods is improving the school system. And we don't do much in trying to do that. I mean, the only qualification of the CEO of schools is that he is buddies with Mayor Daley.
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Unread 02-12-2009, 12:39 PM
 
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1) I don't like how there are so many fans of other teams when you go to some sporting events. For example, the Cardinals games. I know that there are a lot that drive here from St. Louis but there are also a lot that live here. But I take it as a compliment that people would move here.
I've pretty much only seen this with the Cardinals. Maybe the Brewers. Both teams are close and their media markets/ spheres of influence overlap ours. I know plenty of people who live in Chicago but are Cards fans because they grew up downstate nearer to St. Louis than to Chicago, but moved to Chicago because it's a bigger city. Either way, none of it is even CLOSE to the sort of environment you'll find at an expansion team game. I went to a Rays game down in Tampa against the Red Sox... Man. It was like 3 to 1 Sox fans to Rays fans.

As for the CPS, however, I agree that the system is broken.
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Unread 02-12-2009, 12:50 PM
 
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What I don't like about Chicago. It's kind of boring for someone like me.
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Unread 02-12-2009, 12:52 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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I've pretty much only seen this with the Cardinals. Maybe the Brewers. Both teams are close and their media markets/ spheres of influence overlap ours. I know plenty of people who live in Chicago but are Cards fans because they grew up downstate nearer to St. Louis than to Chicago, but moved to Chicago because it's a bigger city. Either way, none of it is even CLOSE to the sort of environment you'll find at an expansion team game. I went to a Rays game down in Tampa against the Red Sox... Man. It was like 3 to 1 Sox fans to Rays fans.

As for the CPS, however, I agree that the system is broken.
Wings fans. But that's mainly because seemingly half of suburban detroit lives in the Chicago area, and the Wings are the only team that allows them to wear their jersey with pride.
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Unread 02-12-2009, 01:20 PM
 
Location: Chicago - Bucktown
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What I don't like about Chicago. It's kind of boring for someone like me.

You mean, kinda like your post?
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Unread 02-12-2009, 02:04 PM
 
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Wings fans. But that's mainly because seemingly half of suburban detroit lives in the Chicago area, and the Wings are the only team that allows them to wear their jersey with pride.
Detroit needs something. Anything.
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Unread 02-12-2009, 02:07 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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2) Chicago Public Schools. One of the first steps in order to improving poorer neighborhoods is improving the school system. And we don't do much in trying to do that. I mean, the only qualification of the CEO of schools is that he is buddies with Mayor Daley.
I'm not necessarily sure you have the order correct. It may be that the moral health of the poor neighborhoods needs to improve before the schools improve. It's something of a chicken-and-egg question.
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Unread 02-12-2009, 02:29 PM
 
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The Worst Thing about Chicago: Cost of Living
The Best Thing about Chicago: architecture and the whole layout of the city, Everything else outweighs the bad!!
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Unread 02-12-2009, 02:34 PM
 
Location: Roscoe Village Chicago, IL
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I'm not necessarily sure you have the order correct. It may be that the moral health of the poor neighborhoods needs to improve before the schools improve. It's something of a chicken-and-egg question.
I was writing that one in kind of a hurry so I do apologize. There are many arguments or reasons we can give on why some of the neighborhoods are the way that they are and things that we can do to improve them. I think that the schools and the way they are does not help at all. I think that they have little resources and things like that. However, when they do have resources, they are often times ruined. And I know that from some experience.
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