Why don't poor neighborhoods have Grocery Stores? (Paris, Harvard: taxation, live in)

[jdiddy]

Originally Posted by skipcromer

Two Double Cheesburgers = 2 Dollars. Can you find me a comparable and healthy food at the grocery store for the same price?

You could get two tiny cups of yogurt, with frozen fruit drenched in high-fructose lovin' syrup.

[BRU67]

Originally Posted by skipcromer

Two Double Cheesburgers = 2 Dollars. Can you find me a comparable and healthy food at the grocery store for the same price?

How about a loaf of whole grain bread and a package of lean turkey or ham lunch meat? That would makes several sandwiches at much < $1 each. And while you're at it, you could grab some peanuts or sunflower seeds as a side, and some bananas and apples for desert. You could probably have a half way healthy lunch of a sandwich, nuts and fruit for less than $1.50 when all was said and done.

Ah, but none are as tasty and quick as that fatty greasy burger, a nice supersized order of fries with extra salt, and one of those 1,000 carb apple pies. Mmmmm

[ajolotl]

I wish I had the discipline to follow the BRU67 diet. I admit to being too lazy and enjoying the taste of sugar and fat too much. I do recall my 1st grade "basic food groups" classes, so I can't claim ignorance, and I have money to spare and live near many grocery stores with good produce.

Originally Posted by BRU67

How about a loaf of whole grain bread and a package of lean turkey or ham lunch meat? That would makes several sandwiches at much < $1 each. And grab some peanuts or sunflower seeds as a side? And some bananas and apples for desert? You could probably have a lunch of a sandwich, peanuts and a banana for less than $1.50 when all was said and done.

Ah, but none are as tasty and quick as that fatty greasy burger, a nice supersized order of fries with extra salt, and one of those 1,000 carb apple pies. Mmmmm

[jdiddy]

Originally Posted by BRU67

How about a loaf of whole grain bread and a package of lean turkey or ham lunch meat? That would makes several sandwiches at much < $1 each. And while you're at it, you could grab some peanuts or sunflower seeds as a side, and some bananas and apples for desert. You could probably have a half way healthy lunch of a sandwich, nuts and fruit for less than $1.50 when all was said and done.

Ah, but none are as tasty and quick as that fatty greasy burger, a nice supersized order of fries with extra salt, and one of those 1,000 carb apple pies. Mmmmm

Where do you shop where you can get bread and lunch meat for under 2 bucks? And really, the cheap lunch meat isn't exactly health food.

[BRU67]

Originally Posted by jdiddy

Where do you shop where you can get bread and lunch meat for under 2 bucks? And really, the cheap lunch meat isn't exactly health food.

10 double cheesburgers are $10, and a pound of lunch meat and a loaf of bread would be roughly the same cost and make the same number of sandwiches, if that clarifies it better for you.

Using this to illustrate not how great the Bru67 diet is (I will tell you how to pump up in another thread) but to show that the argument that economics "force" persons in the ghetto to eat like crap is horse hockey. People eat that way because they want to eat that way, bottom line.

[GoCUBS1]

Originally Posted by Costa Rica Chica

We have a four-year grant to an agency in Bronzeville which is developing a curriculum for an after-school program. They address the issue in a number of ways, but this is an issue that has never been addressed in this agency or in the partner CPS schools. The curriculum includes: cooking classes for children and parents, community gardening, nutrition training, fieldtrips to local grocery stores to teach healthy shopping, and nutrition campaigns that the children design to put out in the community. The children are exposed to the curriculum for 4 years. We are working with nutritionists and healthcare experts which are offering their services pro bono. This is just one of 4 projects we have in 4 different low-income neighborhoods in Chicago.

Sounds like you're doing great work! I don't have a background in nutrition but I do think early child intervention is key to changing long-term eating habits. For me, it's not so much about discipline/self-control because I really only like healthy foods like fresh veggies. Most of the processed, fatty, salty, sugary, fast food disgusts me.

My parents raised me this way. In my lunch box, I usually had an apple and a tuna sandwich made from whole grain bread. White Wonder Bread, Pop, sugar cereal, cheeze wiz, packaged bologna, etc. were not allowed in our house. My grandparents were farmers and ate healthy. I now feed my kids a very healthy diet. This is 4 generations of healthy eating and there are few overweight people in my large family. My point is that kids can learn to prefer mainly healthy foods (instead of processed foods) as my kids have. These type of school intervention programs just might make a difference for future generations...

Good luck Chica... Love to hear periodic updates or maybe volunteer for something like this. Is there a website we can look at?

[jdiddy]

Originally Posted by BRU67

10 double cheesburgers are $10, and a pound of lunch meat and a loaf of bread would be roughly the same cost and make the same number of sandwiches, if that clarifies it better for you.

Using this to illustrate not how great the Bru67 diet is (I will tell you how to pump up in another thread) but to show that the argument that economics "force" persons in the ghetto to eat like crap is horse hockey. People eat that way because they want to eat that way, bottom line.

Heh. Yeah, i guess that makes a little more sense. You have to spell things out for me....very....slowly.

I think it's really a mix of both though. In the end, no person is a slave to their environment, and everyone has the ability to dictate how will they react despite whatever roadblocks have been placed in their way.

But in the macro sense, I have a hard time believing the American poor (and for that matter, the American middle class) are that much lazier and sloppy than their counterparts in other Western nations. Public policy that would make wise nutritional choices easier (some of which discussed in that article sukwoo posted) would go a long way in reducing health care costs from the many diseases resulting from our terrible diets.

[GoCUBS1]

Originally Posted by BRU67

10 double cheesburgers are $10, and a pound of lunch meat and a loaf of bread would be roughly the same cost and make the same number of sandwiches, if that clarifies it better for you.

And for breakfast, buying a big tub of oatmeal (or yogurt) is healthier and much cheaper than eating an Egg McMuffin w/hashbrowns every day.

p.s. I think the McDonald's hashbrown is the most horrid food (is it food?) on the market. I'm getting nauseous thinking about it...

[Milwaukee City]

They have their over priced corner stores that charge 9.00 for a box of cereal.

[Venom]

Don't forget Cheetos Fritos and Doritos.
2 liter sodas