Cubs Vs Cardinals (Gibson, Barry, Mark: how much, title, retired)

[Lookout Kid]

Originally Posted by skipcromer

Wrigley on the other hand...a maze! How can I have two seats right next to each other yet have the numbers not be concurrent with one another.

Well, Wrigley pre-dates the Titanic by several years. It's expected there. You also pee in troughs for crying out loud.

[Avengerfire]

Stan Musial was decent I cannot argue there.

However I would present somebody nobody mentioned (I find it hard to believe nobody has) as the best living player in baseball.

His name is Sandy Koufax.

[skipcromer]

Originally Posted by Avengerfire

Stan Musial was decent I cannot argue there.

However I would present somebody nobody mentioned (I find it hard to believe nobody has) as the best living player in baseball.

His name is Sandy Koufax.

Right or wrong, I tend to put pitchers into a different category.

That said, I still have a tough time saying Sandy was the greatest of all time. Mostly due to the fact that he was finished by age 30. I understand that by the time you were thirty in his era you pitched quite a few more inning then somebody that pitches to thirty in this era. Maybe I should take that more into consideration?

[skipcromer]

Originally Posted by Lookout Kid

Well, Wrigley pre-dates the Titanic by several years. It's expected there. You also pee in troughs for crying out loud.

I dont disagree at all.

As a cards fan, I love Wrigley.

[Avengerfire]

Originally Posted by skipcromer

Right or wrong, I tend to put pitchers into a different category.

That said, I still have a tough time saying Sandy was the greatest of all time...

I am saying he is the best living baseball player-not the greatest baseball player that has ever played.

The OP stated that Pujols or Musial is the greatest living player.

Now if we are going to debate who is the greatest active player that is another ball game.

Originally Posted by aaronstlcards

Chicago might be "better" than St. Louis in other categories...

...Plus St. Louis has the best living player in baseball.

Originally Posted by aaronstlcards

I meant Albert, but that actually is a little bit of an over statement. Actually, former Cardinal Stan Musial probably is the best living baseball player.

[skipcromer]

Originally Posted by Avengerfire

I am saying he is the best living baseball player-not the greatest baseball player that has ever played.

The OP stated that Pujols or Musial is the greatest living player.

Now if we are going to debate who is the greatest active player that is another ball game.

Fair enough.

[Lookout Kid]

I still think either Willie Mays or Hank Aaron takes it. But I'm partial to Hank Aaron because he was a Milwaukee Brave.

[Chi-town Native]

wasn't hard to find the bleachers, the signage directing you to the limited staircases (or is it just one staircase?) was what was whack. I walked in a giant circle around the park before realizing I needed to basically turn around and go all the way to the other end.

reminded me of MSI, where the exhibit halls dead end and you have to retrace your steps, whereas at the Field Museum there are stairs in every corner.

[Chi-town Native]

the problem was the signage, we walked for 15 minutes only to finally realize the bleachers couldn't be accessed from that end of the park. and we hadn't been drinking at that point of the day!

anyhoo, so it's on tonight!

[MassVt]

Originally Posted by Lookout Kid

I still think either Willie Mays or Hank Aaron takes it. But I'm partial to Hank Aaron because he was a Milwaukee Brave.

...by a very slight margin over Aaron; Musial was a great player, but his hitting was much better than his defensive skills. Aaron did everything well; Mays , while hitting fewer HRs than Aaron, had greater ability in the field and on the basepaths. And I haven't even mentioned Ernie Banks, Frank Robinson, Harmon Killebrew or Al Kaline...