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Old 03-18-2009, 07:21 AM
 
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Default Guns in Chicago

Why is dipstick Daley always promoting more gun laws to curb the violence in Chicago? Doesn't Chicago have some of the strickest gun control laws in the country? If that's the case, it doesn't seem that even more gun control is going to make a difference. Does he realize that drug dealers and gang bangers don't give two sh*ts about gun laws and they're going to get and use guns regardless of what the law says? (Duh, that's was makes them criminal in the first place!)
Putting restrictions on gun ownership does nothing but put citizens who abide by the law at a disadvantage.

Is Richey just pandering to his voting base and telling them what they want to hear or he are he and his buddies (Jesse, Al and Louie) afraid to tackle the real problems in the community? (they know what they are, they just won't say it).
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Old 03-18-2009, 07:51 AM
 
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and what is the real problem?
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Old 03-18-2009, 07:58 AM
 
Location: Houston Texas
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I'm bringing our guns to Chicago. I find small relief in being able to have our shotguns assembled.
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Old 03-18-2009, 08:08 AM
 
Location: Denver, CO
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True, but the only way to put an end to this is to take down the entire Chicago political machine. Have any ideas?
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Old 03-18-2009, 08:38 AM
 
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True, but the only way to put an end to this is to take down the entire Chicago political machine. Have any ideas?
That won't solve it. Without the political machine, we'd have REAL liberals running things, and that would not have the effect you desire.
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Old 03-18-2009, 08:41 AM
 
Location: South Side
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Politicians are under great pressure to do something about the terrible results of gun violence. On one side, more laws don't always reduce the number or use of guns. On the other side, many handguns are obtained in home burglaries, strawman sales and private transfers. The gun nuts just want no gun laws -- however, there is no unlimited constitutional right.

The gun banners don't have it right, either. Targeted, clearly defined, least burdensome efforts seem to be most important.
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Old 03-18-2009, 08:43 AM
 
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Why is dipstick Daley always promoting more gun laws to curb the violence in Chicago? Doesn't Chicago have some of the strickest gun control laws in the country? If that's the case, it doesn't seem that even more gun control is going to make a difference. Does he realize that drug dealers and gang bangers don't give two sh*ts about gun laws and they're going to get and use guns regardless of what the law says? (Duh, that's was makes them criminal in the first place!)
Putting restrictions on gun ownership does nothing but put citizens who abide by the law at a disadvantage.

Is Richey just pandering to his voting base and telling them what they want to hear or he are he and his buddies (Jesse, Al and Louie) afraid to tackle the real problems in the community? (they know what they are, they just won't say it).
I'm often called a liberal on this board (even though I consider myself a centrist), but I pretty much completely agree with lenniel on this point. Stricter gun laws do nothing in a climate where guns are readily available to criminals. And guns are always going to be readily available as long as the second ammendment is in effect and there is a supply of existing guns to go out on the black market.

Now, I personally wouldn't mind a repeal of the second ammendment--and a large-scale meltdown of existing guns. If the supply of existing guns was reduced greatly and the black market squashed, we would have a situation like Europe where guns just aren't that common--and gun violence is rare. But guns last a LONG time in working order, and this is politically impossible. So, while the second ammendment is in effect and we are indeed swimming in available firearms, I see no point in stricter gun laws. And I personally wouldn't mind owning a handgun in this climate, if they were legal in Chicago and my wife changed her mind about them.
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Old 03-18-2009, 08:43 AM
 
Location: Chicago
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I dont know why people even respond to these threads. A new one is going to pop up every day.
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Old 03-18-2009, 08:47 AM
 
Location: Volker, Kansas City, MO
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I think my political leanings are of no secret to this forum, but this is one issue I am pretty moderate on. I won't keep a handgun in my house -- statistics show they're considerably more likely to be used in a suicide than in a home invasion -- but I don't know that that's something that should be legislated.

Controlling who may legally purchase a weapon, closing gun show loopholes and renewing efforts to get as many illegal guns off the street seems to be a clear middle ground here.

At the same time, Missouri's conceal and carry makes me very uncomfortable.
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Old 03-18-2009, 08:49 AM
 
Location: West Loop
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Actually NYC and SF have stricter gun laws.

I don't feel less safe not having a pistol here. I think if the unfortunate occasion should occur and I had to defend my home with force, my 12 gauge side by side is more than enough.
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