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Old 05-06-2009, 10:52 PM
 
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It's nutty to compare guns to books in this manner.

Yes, I said "interpret". There are quite a few people out there who have interpreted the Second Ammendment to apply only to organized militias.
Those people are wrong.

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I did not make this up, nor do I necessarily agree with this interpretation. And the Supreme Court has also not gone along with this interpretation. But a different Supreme Court could overturn this precedent, even if it seems illogical. That was my only point.
I know you aren't making this up, but the Supreme Court has ruled on this as have most states.

 
Old 05-06-2009, 10:55 PM
 
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I know you aren't making this up, but the Supreme Court has ruled on this as have most states.
Yeah, I already said that. No need for that conjunction there.
 
Old 05-06-2009, 10:56 PM
 
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All of these Charles Bronson wannabes who think they can defend themselves against all manor of criminal attack by carrying a handgun in a holster are really really hilarious to me. Who the **** do they think they are? Not everyone is Rambo or a Navy SEAL. I think they just watched too many Westerns growing up or something. It's just laughable.
I think you are buying into the anti gun hype that a person cannot defend themselves with a firearm. It happens many times each day, mostly without the gun being fired, but not always.

I know, personally, at least a dozen people that have prevented themselves form being a victim of a crime by using a firearm.

You don't need to be a SEAL or Rambo to use a gun. That's the point . The average housewife, the guy in a mall parking lot, the man at a store, all of these people can defend themselves with a firearm.
 
Old 05-06-2009, 10:59 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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The Equalizer.
 
Old 05-06-2009, 11:03 PM
 
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The Equalizer.

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Old 05-06-2009, 11:21 PM
 
Location: St. Augustine
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I know, personally, at least a dozen people that have prevented themselves form being a victim of a crime by using a firearm.
Half a dozen, eh? Right. Gun totin' Florida vegetarians eh?

You're not from around here, right?
 
Old 05-06-2009, 11:22 PM
 
Location: southern california
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sounds like berlin 1936
 
Old 05-06-2009, 11:56 PM
 
Location: Chicago - mudhole in the prairie...
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Then you would know he had a gun. If he was drunk, then he would be arrested. Pretty simple to me.
The Chinese say that if something seems simple that means that you probably do not know everything about it....
What if you could not see a gun, than all is fine I guess?
The point is I do not think a lot of people would be responsible enough to leave guns at home when they go out to drink. A lof of people would play with guns when they drunk the same way they tend to race they cars when they drunk.


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Two things. First, there is time to protect your family if you are prepared. I know that from personal experience.
Prepared? What, should I sleep with a loaded gun under my pillow?
This is not an old John Wayne movie, you know. It is 2009. XXI century...

[quote=Lilybeans;8690099] Secondly, I think the nutcases you are refrring to are called citizens.[/quotes]


And some of those citizens commit crimes and some are real nutcases, what is your point? I just do not trust the general population with guns.
Even those who have access to guns today 'cause too much trouble.



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Good grief. If someone points a gun at you what would you do? Call the cops? I guarantee that my .45 will arrive on the scene faster than a policeman can get there.
No. I'd play James Bond and pull out mine in 0.03 seconds. Of course I'd carry mine loaded with safety off, right in my belt, just in case
Realistically now, I'd probably have my head blown off...


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Now, if you think banning guns will solve the problem, I'm assuming that you mean banning all guns. That includes the police, right? Because the day guns are banned, no one will have them. Am I correct in that?
No, you are not. The police, military, hunters and sportsmen need them and should have them. Europe has been doing this for a long time. It's not like we are inventing the wheel, here.
 
Old 05-07-2009, 12:04 AM
 
Location: Chicago - mudhole in the prairie...
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All of these Charles Bronson wannabes who think they can defend themselves against all manor of criminal attack by carrying a handgun in a holster are really really hilarious to me. Who the **** do they think they are? Not everyone is Rambo or a Navy SEAL. I think they just watched too many Westerns growing up or something. It's just laughable.
It would be if they weren't so serious about it. So many Rambos out there... Most of them wouldn't hit a man from 50 feet and would probably put other people in danger while attempting to do so. Jeez. Shooting a gun in traget practice is not the same as discharging a lethal weapon in a split second adrenaline enhanced situation. .

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Old 05-07-2009, 12:06 AM
 
Location: Chicago - mudhole in the prairie...
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I think you are buying into the anti gun hype that a person cannot defend themselves with a firearm. It happens many times each day, mostly without the gun being fired, but not always.

I know, personally, at least a dozen people that have prevented themselves form being a victim of a crime by using a firearm.

You don't need to be a SEAL or Rambo to use a gun. That's the point . The average housewife, the guy in a mall parking lot, the man at a store, all of these people can defend themselves with a firearm.
When you have a gun pointed at you there is not much of a defense you can do...
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