what parts of chicago is considered a white, asian or hispanic ghetto? (Canton: Persian, place)

[icebergsyndrome]

Originally Posted by ajolotl

There is nothing subconscious about it. People openly talk about the shade of everyone's skin any opportunity they get. It's an obsession. It's also one of the main reasons I get embarrassed bringing U.S.-born friends with me when I visit.

The "whiter is better" mantra is obvious with a cursory glance at Mexican, Venezuelan, and what-have-you telenovelas...most of the cast looks European and if they happen to look more Native they are most often relegated to playing servants or villains.

When I went to Chile in April my relatives commented on a picture of my girlfriend and I (she's Mexican) by saying things like "oh but she's so...dark" with an obvious sense of disappointment.

[Venom]

Originally Posted by icebergsyndrome

The "whiter is better" mantra is obvious with a cursory glance at Mexican, Venezuelan, and what-have-you telenovelas...most of the cast looks European and if they happen to look more Native they are most often relegated to playing servants or villains.

When I went to Chile in April my relatives commented on a picture of my girlfriend and I (she's Mexican) by saying things like "oh but she's so...dark" with an obvious sense of disappointment.

I know, I hate that.

[Venom]

Originally Posted by Drover

I've railed about this before and I'll do it again: "Latino" or "Hispanic" is such a contrivance to begin with, even by the standards of contrived racial/ethnic designations. I have no use for an ethnic designation that puts Cameron Diaz and Jessica Alba and people whose ancestors arrived here from Spain 300 years ago in the same classification as someone who is 3/4ths first-nations, just arrived here last April, and was a 4th-class citizen in his home country. Or lumps that poor guy in with one of my classmates who is considered Hispanic because parents were from Argentina even though he has blond hair, blue eyes, and a German surname.

What am I then drover?!?!
WHAT AM I!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

[ajolotl]

Originally Posted by icebergsyndrome

The "whiter is better" mantra is obvious with a cursory glance at Mexican, Venezuelan, and what-have-you telenovelas...most of the cast looks European and if they happen to look more Native they are most often relegated to playing servants or villains.

When I went to Chile in April my relatives commented on a picture of my girlfriend and I (she's Mexican) by saying things like "oh but she's so...dark" with an obvious sense of disappointment.

You got it, though the maid usually discovers via some bizarre twist that she is heiress to the aritocrat's fortune (the working class makes up most of the telenovela audience).

[Drover]

Originally Posted by Venom

What am I then drover?!?!
WHAT AM I!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

I can't say without incurring the wrath of the mods.

[ChiMack]

one more q about bridgeport..since it has a sizeable hispanic pop, do they live by the area i bridgeport that borders mckinley park.. and how does mckinley park stay so relatively safe when it borders some hood areas

[Drover]

1) Yes, the preponderance of Hispanics live on the west side of Bridgeport though there's no line you cross where it goes from one ethnicity to the next, it's more of a gradual blend/changeover;

2) There are physical barriers between McKinley Park and the rougher area to the west (a raised train corridor) and to the south (a big-ass rail yard).

[Quentin Eistrup]

Originally Posted by PokerPlayer1

Ahahahahahaha so ****ing true... So, so true... and yes, when the rest of the southside was being steamrolled by encroaching ghettoness, Bridgeport Hispanics were shoulder-to-shoulder with everyone else in the effort to keep our neighborhood free from black ghetto filth and for that, all of us native 'porties owe them a debt of gratitude.

As far as the cultural blend thing, I think a lot of it has to do with the fact that there is an aesthetic graying line where you can't really tell the difference between a light Hispanic and a dark Italian. Since Italians are a large part of the culture in b'port and they're (generally) culturally synergistic with Hispanics, it only makes sense. Intermarriage between Hispanic/Italian/Irish in B'port has been accepted forever.

A lot of those Hispanic families have been there a long, long time and are totally integrated with the 'Chicago way' , unlike Pilsen which strives to be a little Guadalajara in the middle of the city.

Spoken like a w(h)opping windbag. Keep up your little Papist enclave while my Danish-WASP-self celebrates the defeat of Fascitalia at the hands of my Ethiopian friends' ancestors.

[Quentin Eistrup]

Originally Posted by Lookout Kid

The talk about "light-skinned Hispanics" kind of floors me, since the term "Hispanic" is really a very broad umbrella including people with all mixtures of European, Native American (several tribes and civilizations), and African ancestry. So a "light-skinned Hispanic" could actually be, well, white for lack of a better term. Plenty of Mexicans in the upper classes have almost 100% Spanish ancestry. I've known several Latin Americans with light brown or blonde hair (non-dyed). So yeah, a Spaniard could look quite a bit like an Italian.

You're so naive to omit the Asian contributions. Didn't you know that the lomo saltado you saw at Ay Ay Picante, Rosa de Lima, or "that Peruvian place" was based on Cantonese recipes?

Stop mentioning Asian people only when it's convenient.

[lenniel]

Originally Posted by Carantini

little village is not a ghetto, neither is back of the yards or humbolt park. one is a mexicans hood that almost all mexicans would love to live in, like lincoln park/wicker park for whites, one is a puerto rican where the same applies. one is just a mix. If your gonna say those are ghettos cause you dont want to live there, even though mexicans and puertoricans love to live there, then lincoln park is the white gheto.
seriously, whats up with the prejudism?cant we all just get along? what are u gonna do now, throw crime statistics out? I dont care how many people got robbed or murdered on my street and how many happened on your street, its a way of life and its common for most non-lincoln park/wicker park city people.
I actually LOVE living where I live. And so does almost everyone else that lives here. Its city life, its not ghetto cause you call it ghetto. Ghetto is public housing projects, everything is just middle-low income and hispanic and black. And "gangs" just means drug dealers, if you dont get involved with drugs, nothing will happen, with the very very unfortunate exception of the very few innocent people caught in crossfires, which again is a common city life element that probably 70% of Chicagoans know someone who has been murdered.
Thanks.

You just made my list of "10 dumbest posts of the year".
Seriously dude, I hope you're being sarcastic but I fear you're not. And the only place where 70% of the people know someone that was murdered are places where gangs, drugs and thugs run the neighborhood, which usually means it's a GHETTO!