what parts of chicago is considered a white, asian or hispanic ghetto? (Waukegan: renters, employment)

[Chicagoland60426]

Originally Posted by Drover

Rogers Park? How do you figure? What about places like, say, Roseland or Chatham or Englewood that are about 98% black?

I was talking about for the Northside.

[surlycue]

Originally Posted by Drover

Rogers Park? How do you figure? What about places like, say, Roseland or Chatham or Englewood that are about 98% black?

Drover, I believe he is saying the largest black pop on the northside. It's true as long as you don't include Austin on the westside.

[Avengerfire]

Originally Posted by Drover

Yeah, the west side of LP in particular got pretty rocky and there are still spots along the Clybourn corridor that look the part even if the area is safe now. Even as late as the mid-90s going to Goose Island for a pint was considered a bit of an adventure, and pubgoers were well advised not to wander too far south of there.

Yes. The entire Clybourn Corridor was pretty bad until the mid-90's. It took about ten years of slow change after that and then in the last 5 years or so has it almost completely changed. It exploded.

There used to be tumbleweed blowing down much of Clybourn up until ten years ago.

[Chi-town Native]

Lily's in LP may be the best place to get that old school vibe since Sterch's was transformed
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[NearWestSider]

Originally Posted by Chi-town Native

define what you're talking about. Puerto Ricans were the majority of the residents? for how long? This may be a tale told by the disgruntled (yes, I have seen the "Young Lords" site, and I find it about as credible as any other tale told by young men in the city), but I haven't seen any evidence it's true.

The DePaul area of Lincoln Park was, in fact, mainly Hispanic. I distinctly remember the Starbucks on the Northwest corner of Webster and Halsted being a Puerto Rican grocery store.

Armitage and Halsted was solidly Puerto Rican back in those days (mid 70's), and La Canasta on Webster was a Mexican grocery store with a small restaurant in the back of the retail business.

Another formerly-Hispanic area is the Broadway corridor from North Uptown through Edgewater, Hard to believe when you go through there today, but nonetheless true.

Large portions of Lake View, including the Southport corridor and the area around Wrigley Field was Hispanic, too.

[Drover]

LOL, I remember going to Cubs games in the 80s. You went to the game and got the hell out. Hard to believe it wasn't too long ago you couldn't give away property in Wrigleyville. Probably because nobody had heard of "Wrigleyville."

[Irishtom29]

Back around 19 and 68 my brother and I were coming out of a restuarant at Fullerton and Halsted and two Puerto Ricans tried to rob us. My brother, a hard case, whipped out his revolver and they took a powder. That was when the hippies were moving into the neighborhood, as I recall the yuppies kind'a followed the hippies.

[Chi-town Native]

Originally Posted by NearWestSider

The DePaul area of Lincoln Park was, in fact, mainly Hispanic. I distinctly remember the Starbucks on the Northwest corner of Webster and Halsted being a Puerto Rican grocery store.

Armitage and Halsted was solidly Puerto Rican back in those days (mid 70's), and La Canasta on Webster was a Mexican grocery store with a small restaurant in the back of the retail business.

Another formerly-Hispanic area is the Broadway corridor from North Uptown through Edgewater, Hard to believe when you go through there today, but nonetheless true.

Large portions of Lake View, including the Southport corridor and the area around Wrigley Field was Hispanic, too.

the problem for you is I actually grew up in these areas, and can state quite frankly you are full of it.

a grocery store doesn't even remotely prove your point. by that standard the new little cheese & wine shop in Logan Square on California makes it a French neighborhood.

show me some lasting contributions to LP that Puerto Ricans built. You know, a new school, a new park, etc. show me some STATS - I'm going to come right out and say you can't, because they don't exist.

[icebergsyndrome]

This is the most interesting thread I have read in a while, simply because I am unaware of a lot of this history, growing up in the suburbs. Clearly the vibe in many neighborhoods has changed even in the past 6 years (which is when I started coming to the city more often) so to read these accounts is great.

[edsg25]

Here's something to think about:

from the late 19th century to at least into the 1950's, Chicago was dominated by European ethnic groups who came here in large numbers when industry and transportation boomed after the Civil War.

A couple of questions (opinions, really) I'd like to ask here:

• I would identify the main groups based on huge numbers and very heavy influence that were part of it all throughout the era in question as the following:

Irish, Italians, Jews, Germans, Poles

Would you agree with my identification of those five, realizing that others like Swedes, Bohemians, Greeks, etc., could be included

• And if you look at Chicago in 2009, what would you identify as neighborhoods, though long past the true era of these groups that have so faded into the melting pot, still hold on to some of the old connections to the past.

I'm thinking of places like Taylor St for Italians, WRP for Jews, Lincoln Sq for Germans, Greektown for Greeks, etc.