bridgeport/canaryville (Chicago, Pulaski, Detroit: live in, safe, moving)

[ChiMack]

Originally Posted by promis1

There are millions of transient transplants, from Michigan, Iowa, minnesota, etc. that have no real knowledge of their ethnic background- just a bunch of clueless yuppies

i would agree with this..i would also add that they want to change the neighborhoods they live in with the cookie cutter and bland stores and make the neighborhoods look the same.. not everyone wants to live in neighborhoods with a starbucks on every corner etc

[Irishtom29]

Originally Posted by promis1

just a bunch of clueless yuppie liberals who voted for Obama and believe that we should all love each other.

I'm a clueless blue collar liberal, born and raised in Chicago and I voted for Obama and believe we should all love each other.

What's wrong with people moving here from Michigan and Iowa? What, it's only OK if you move here from Kiltimagh or Lodz? Man, this city needs new blood, all cities do. Some old and some new, that makes a city interesting.

[ajolotl]

I'm tired of that argument. I'll take a good bar and a good coffee shop over a sucky one any day. If it can be unique to the neighborhood and locally owned, all the better. If the choice is between chain and nothing at all or complete suckitude, give me the chain. I heard this bs in Hyde Park for too long. Locally owned blah blah. Just give me a place to get a good drink.

Originally Posted by ChiMack

i would agree with this..i would also add that they want to change the neighborhoods they live in with the cookie cutter and bland stores and make the neighborhoods look the same.. not everyone wants to live in neighborhoods with a starbucks on every corner etc

[ajolotl]

No kidding. Some people always need something to ***** about.

Originally Posted by Irishtom29

I'm a clueless blue collar liberal, born and raised in Chicago and I voted for Obama and believe we should all love each other.

What's wrong with people moving here from Michigan and Iowa? What, it's only OK if you move here from Kiltimagh or Lodz? Man, this city needs new blood, all cities do. Some old and some new, that makes a city interesting.

[southsidehitman]

Originally Posted by ChiMack

i would agree with this..i would also add that they want to change the neighborhoods they live in with the cookie cutter and bland stores and make the neighborhoods look the same.. not everyone wants to live in neighborhoods with a starbucks on every corner etc

there is no starbucks or pretty much any chain stores in bridgeport or canaryville

[icebergsyndrome]

Originally Posted by ajolotl

Go to Vito and Nick's on 84th and Kedzie. That last 100 white blue collar southsiders are all gathered in there like it's 1975. You can have a bud and a decent thin crust and lament the sinking of the ship. I think the head waitress drags around a ventilator and has been working there for 60 years.

The funniest thing I have read on this site to date! Wish I could rep you.

[promis1]

Originally Posted by 87vertgt

thugs keep weirdoe's and rapist's and yuppies out.....they keep rent down. they keep the people that have lived there for a while safe from other trouble makers coming to the neigborhood.

What?

[Venom]

Originally Posted by promis1

What?

Is true.

[Drover]

Originally Posted by promis1

No, u shaddup! The man has a very valid point.

If he had bothered to actually try to construct a coherent thought, I might have been able to detect a point, valid or otherwise. All I saw was a non-punctuated block of text that, I think, was supposed to be a rant about something or other.

[Drover]

Originally Posted by promis1

Not true, in fact, much of Chicago is not the same Chicago as it was even 15 years ago. There are millions of transient transplants, from Michigan, Iowa, minnesota, etc. that have no real knowledge of their ethnic background- just a bunch of clueless yuppie liberals who voted for Obama and believe that we should all love each other.

Originally Posted by ChiMack

i would agree with this..i would also add that they want to change the neighborhoods they live in with the cookie cutter and bland stores and make the neighborhoods look the same.. not everyone wants to live in neighborhoods with a starbucks on every corner etc

Straight from my brother-in-law, in response to a similar complaint in a similar conversation on city-data two years ago:

Originally Posted by Druid

I had to laugh at this. The exodus of nearly 1 million Chicagoans to outlying areas and the herds of babies they spat out turned dozens of small, tight-knit farm communities into cold, nameless, faceless, sprawling, congested, gridlocked cookie-cutter suburbs. Hundreds of thousands of acres of farmland got paved over and replaced with strip malls. Your city has exported drugs, gangs and violence all over the Midwest to cities big and small like Milwaukee, the Twin Cities, Decatur, Springfield, Indianapolis, and so forth. Your criminals get sent to our jails downstate and their hoochie-mamas move down here to be closer to them and bring their 7 maladjusted sociopathic kids with them who then turn our neighborhoods and our schools upside down. Your rich millionaire doctors and lawyers and bankers buy up property all over Wisconsin and Michigan only to leave it sitting vacant 10 months out of the year while locals get pushed out because they can't afford to live where their families have been for generations. And now you want to complain that people come from other states and turn run-down mom and pop stores into coffee shops? Get a clue.

Short version: what goes around, comes around. Chicago has always interacted with the region around it, has changed it, and has been changed by it. This is nothing new.