bridgeport/canaryville (Chicago, Highland, Oakland: real estate, condo, violent crime)

[Pacheen]

Originally Posted by ajolotl

Go to Vito and Nick's on 84th and Kedzie. That last 100 white blue collar southsiders are all gathered in there like it's 1975. You can have a bud and a decent thin crust and lament the sinking of the ship. I think the head waitress drags around a ventilator and has been working there for 60 years.

It is on 85th and Pulaski. I was just there on Saturday night. My favorite pizza!!!!

[Chi-town Native]

Originally Posted by Irishtom29

I'm a clueless blue collar liberal, born and raised in Chicago and I voted for Obama and believe we should all love each other.

What's wrong with people moving here from Michigan and Iowa? What, it's only OK if you move here from Kiltimagh or Lodz? Man, this city needs new blood, all cities do. Some old and some new, that makes a city interesting.

I agree tom, although it would be nice if these folks didn't seem to all self-segregate into a few northside neighborhoods.

btw, what neighborhood do the locals call 84th and Kedzie?

you all might like this:

http://www.lib.uchicago.edu/lib/publ...C6E625-1926-T5

[ajolotl]

Originally Posted by Pacheen

It is on 85th and Pulaski. I was just there on Saturday night. My favorite pizza!!!!

Thanks for correction. I was going by memory -- always get those streets confused. Pizza is definitely pretty decent. The "time travel" aspect though fascinates me. Really seems like it's from a different era.

[ChiMack]

Originally Posted by Drover

Straight from my brother-in-law, in response to a similar complaint in a similar conversation on city-data two years ago:


Short version: what goes around, comes around. Chicago has always interacted with the region around it, has changed it, and has been changed by it. This is nothing new.

thats true..but one of these days we might get a mayor that wants to put a halt/slow down gentrification..i think thats a possibility

[Avengerfire]

^ Why are you saying "we." You live in NYC. ^

[ChiMack]

[southsidehitman]

id also add most of the sw side

[Chicagoland60426]

Originally Posted by southsidehitman

bridgeport is only a third white

True. Its now overrun by Asians and Hispanics.

[Chicagoland60426]

Originally Posted by southsidehitman

is the only parts of real old chicago that remain whos residents are real chicago type people blue collar hard working hard drinking friendly people and it just has that chicago feel and yeah i have friends in uptown and logan square and portage park n all that n those areas are fine but they just dont feel like chicago and most of the people are the kinds of people i hate the most yuppie hispster scum hell will freeze over before the south side is over run by yuppie scum

So you narrow down real Chicago with only two neighborhoods. I think it is safe to say a large portion of the entire southside are populated by native non yuppie people. I actually don't mind a few southside neighborhoods becoming yuppie/hipster section. At least they can help the southside current reputation.

[Chicagoland60426]

Originally Posted by ajolotl

I've been here for a good while (27 years, all as a grown up) and am very aware of the changes (though I don't see them as all bad). I just don't see how vowing that yuppie scums will never take over the south side has any relevance to anything. Maybe perhaps in Bridgeport itself, but that's a pretty major stretch even at this point. The vast majority of the south side is either very poor or working class black and mexican. Anyone who actually lives down here would beg for a yuppie invasion.

I agree. I think the southside can benefit seeing a yuppie/hipster invasion in neighborhoods that desperately need it. As for this fear of the whole southside becoming yuppieville or a identical twin of the Northside is unrealistic. The southside land mass is the size of Detroit or Philly and stretch all the way to 136th St. By that alone, I can't imagine even half of the southside becoming gentrified.

Most of the gentrification on the southside is happening between the South Loop and Hyde Park(already gentrified). I'm sure many so called yuppies and hipsters aren't willing to go further south than that.