Chicago (Marion, Lincoln, Georgetown: taxes, cost of living, rated)

[softdev]

I feel your pain.

Up until recently, I had lived and worked in Manhattan and DC. Chicago has been...well...quite the let down. Anywhere outside the Gold Coast is overrun with either blue collar (i.e., nothing in common) or annoying people from crappy Big 10 schools.

The east coast is just a lot more sophisticated than the midwest. People grow out of their college years immediately or within a few years. People are focused on getting ahead in their careers and not just waiting for 5 o' clock to roll around.

[Tex?Il?]

Originally Posted by CarolinaBredChicagoan

I've had scores of people visit me from the Southeast, and not ONE of them hasn't been pleasantly surprised by Chicago. Not one. They expected a gritty, fat, sausage-and-beer town, and based on the places we went and people we met, they didn't get that. Because that isn't how I spend my time. Nor should it be how you spend yours if you hate it all so much.

Thats great to hear, because I love the south and west, (gotta love those southern belles and cowgirls!)! My self-consciousness melts away when I hear that. (Kenny Chesney commented how he loved Chicago).

Now all we need is to take born and bred Chicagoans and take them to Dallas-Fort Worth, Houston, Austin, and San Antonio and show them that these places are not all J.R. Ewings, George W. Bushes, Bud Travis (from Urban Cowboy, etc.) and we'll have the perfect interregional cultural exchange!

[CarolinaBredChicagoan]

Originally Posted by Tex?Il?

Thats great to hear, because I love the south and west, (gotta love those southern belles and cowgirls!)! My self-consciousness melts away when I hear that. (Kenny Chesney commented how he loved Chicago).

Now all we need is to take born and bred Chicagoans and take them to Dallas-Fort Worth, Houston, Austin, and San Antonio and show them that these places are not all J.R. Ewings, George W. Bushes, Bud Travis (from Urban Cowboy, etc.) and we'll have the perfect interregional cultural exchange!

Well, I know Austin's nice, and I liked San Antonio, too. Never been to Houston, but DFW... might need a little work. I ate well there, though. Good restaurants.

[surlycue]

Originally Posted by Drover

Next stops: Bridgeport and Rogers Park?

Just saw this on Windy City:

SATURDAY 6/13
Geek Prom
Source: Geek Prom
9pm - 2am
Obtain advance entry clearance for $15/couple or $10/single. $20/couple or $15/single at the door.
Co-Prosperity Sphere
3219 S Morgan St.


Yet another scenester venue in Bridgeport. Yikes.

[Avengerfire]

Originally Posted by Drover

...Where they will most likely, sooner or later, be priced out. Next stops:...Rogers Park?

They are already there and have been a long time, but just not a huge number of them.

[Carantini]

Originally Posted by softdev

I feel your pain.

Up until recently, I had lived and worked in Manhattan and DC. Chicago has been...well...quite the let down. Anywhere outside the Gold Coast is overrun with either blue collar (i.e., nothing in common) or annoying people from crappy Big 10 schools.

The east coast is just a lot more sophisticated than the midwest. People grow out of their college years immediately or within a few years. People are focused on getting ahead in their careers and not just waiting for 5 o' clock to roll around.

Although you are right that there all a lot of douchebags stuck in college mentality, they are a lot only cause there are a lot of every type of ppl here cause well its a huge city. you were in the wrong crows and neighborhood. career minded young adults do have theire own hoods, which are immediately surrounding the loop. like u said, the gold coast is the biggest of the hoods for those ppl, its also a very dense and populated area, skyscrapers galore of residents. the big ten douches go there too, specifically on division and clark i believe, but they just visit for the weeknight the crappy sports irish bars, get drunk, robbed, beat up, arrested, and go back to wrigleyville, then back to ohio, michigan, misouri, iowa, or the suburbs after a couple of years. so yes, you are semi right, but you are wrong to act like the gold coast is sort of small or limited, its a very crowded area, as well as south and west loop and loop also. in addition, the blue color people you think are blue color are usually not, there are a lot of career oriented, probably 30-40% of the people in the rest of the city outside the transplant areas. if you take down any personal barriers you might have against other nationalities, you will find and meet career minded graduates in every single neighborhood, including what many would consider a ghetto. The african american population in chicago is the largest middle class and upwardly moble african american population in the world. Spanish speakers as well, they dont have those Hoy and La Raza newspapers all around the city even in the loop and gold coast for no reason. The immigrants from all over the world, from bosnia to somalia, poland to china, all in their neighborhoods or spread around, are the majority in the city, not the transplants, and despite any accents of broken english, they hold engineering and doctorate degrees by the hundreds of thousands. If you have a career yourself, you would notice right away because they are also in careers and would do business with them. I hope I didnt offend you if I did, I didnt intend to in any way.

[southsidehitman]

Originally Posted by Drover

You know, I keep hearing this but I've spent a lot of time in Bridgeport over the last 18 months or so and I have yet to see them. Where are these supposed Bridgeport hipsters? What are their hangouts? I had heard Mitchell's on Halsted near 33rd was a potential hipster spot, but when I went there all I saw was a bunch of bros wearing Sox hats, which is about what I expected except that they were drinking decent beer instead of Old Pile. Then there's that hoppin' vinyl record shop pretty much across the street from Mitchell's but it's been there since the 70s so it well and clearly predates any supposed hipster invasion.

lets boogie records! that place is semi out of buisness but its great this really cool old guy works there but records r really exspensive there i hate to say this but you can find better deals at reckless records in wicker park than there but i like to give lets boogie my buisness its closed like 80% of the time though with a for rent sign


and as far as hipster hang outs theres this art gallery place on morgan st by my parents house they hang out there


n i love mitchells i go there prolyl 3 times a week

[southsidehitman]

Originally Posted by surlycue

Just saw this on Windy City:

SATURDAY 6/13
Geek Prom
Source: Geek Prom
9pm - 2am
Obtain advance entry clearance for $15/couple or $10/single. $20/couple or $15/single at the door.
Co-Prosperity Sphere
3219 S Morgan St.


Yet another scenester venue in Bridgeport. Yikes.

thats the place i was talking about theres some weird space control thing in the window n all the hispsters hang there

i walk past there on my to have a beer at kaplains a lot

[JoeyPants]

I don't think Bridgeport is much of a hipster hangout, unless you consider Jimbo's on 32nd and Princeton. Is it still open?

[Lookout Kid]

Originally Posted by softdev

I feel your pain.

Up until recently, I had lived and worked in Manhattan and DC. Chicago has been...well...quite the let down. Anywhere outside the Gold Coast is overrun with either blue collar (i.e., nothing in common) or annoying people from crappy Big 10 schools.

The east coast is just a lot more sophisticated than the midwest. People grow out of their college years immediately or within a few years. People are focused on getting ahead in their careers and not just waiting for 5 o' clock to roll around.

To say that "Anywhere outside of the Gold Coast is overrun with either blue collar or annoying people from crappy Big 10 schools" is frankly a really stupid and innacurate comment. Chicago has dozens of "creative class" neighborhoods filled with educated, white collar people. You clearly have no grasp of what Chicago is like, so step aside and let the informed people speak please. Thanks.