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Old 07-08-2009, 06:54 PM
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I have a car, so I don't know -- but I'd imagine that (in Econ speak) "at the margin" one wouldn't want to spend the $50 for the zipcar for the errand.

That is, at any given moment one can choose to spend the money on the zipcar or not (even though rationally you realize you're saving overall by not owning a car), and I'd bet most people would, at the moment, choose not to spend the zipcar cash, therefore one ends up living without a car, even with the so-called zip car option.

It's kinda like not owning a vacation home, and it'd be "cheaper to take vacations instead". Who really still wants to step up and pay $399 per night for a rental, even if the week costs you far less than the vacation home mortgage overall? Many people probably choose not to spend all at the margin, and then guess what? No nice vacation. Same thing with these zip cars. I predict they will do about as well as Peapod did, underperform in stock parlance.
Yes you are so right...I'm sure all 300k zipcar subscribers are paying their annual membership & then never paying the $7/hour to actually use the cars.

The vacation home analogy is another winner...other than vacation homes are rented all the time.
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Old 07-08-2009, 07:28 PM
 
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Yes you are so right...I'm sure all 300k zipcar subscribers are paying their annual membership & then never paying the $7/hour to actually use the cars.

The vacation home analogy is another winner...other than vacation homes are rented all the time.
Sweet, DBag is an expert on the economics too. Glad we could have him here to enlighten us. His math skills are really poor because the zip car is very economical. Here's what my wife's car costs us each month:

Parking: $310
Loan: $723
Total = $1033

Big ole waste of money. Zip car, let's just round it up to $10/hour. If we did two 3 hour errands a week, that would still cost me less than the parking. How many hours do you spend on errands a week? We don't even come to close to six, let alone in her car.

Here's a timeline of DBag's Tuesday with his awesome car:

8 - Drive to job at tollbooth
9 - Arrive at tollbooth, admire the shine on the '93 Geo
12PM - Take two hour lunch
2:03 - Fall asleep
5:00:00 - Punch out, drive to payday loan
5:05 - Rollover $700
5:10 - Take $200 more out
5:45 - Drive to Home Depot
6 - Buy power drill to fix smaller power tool
6:30 - Buy dinner for 7 at KFC for $19.50
7 - Arrive home to find wife sleeping with more successful friend
7:05 - Slam car into friend's BMW
8:00 - Ride with tow truck operator
8:10 - Stop at pay day loan to get money to pay tow truck operator
...
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Old 07-08-2009, 07:29 PM
 
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http://www.city-data.com/zips/60610.html

*****, six figures per household is pennies in the Gold Coast. The average for my zip is 126k AGI. I live in a white glove building where you would have a hard time making it on that. Go back to your suburbs where you can afford to go to Costco.
LOL; you're bragging about living on the Gold Coast and at the same time ripping the suburbs. The Gold Coast IS a (denser version of a) suburb. Boring white preppies who think Water Tower Place is edgy. You go to the same big boxes as in Schaumburg, but you drive to the parking lots on Clybourn.

And 126k is not wealthy. Besides the general douchiness of bragging about your building median income (like you have a clue what your neighbors make), you would be a pauper in Winnekta or in first-tier urban centers like Manhattan.

People who live in the Gold Coast and brag about their income either A. Can't make in in prime urban centers like NYC or SF, and or B. Are complete d-bags. In your case, I would choose A and B.

And you're full of crap anyways. The car ownership rate in this part of Chicago is something like 75%.

Unless they're 24 and sharing an apartment with some other broke post-college students, or 90 and too old to drive, just about everyone in the Gold Coast has a car.

What are you going to do, skateboard to Whole Foods? Take a lady to Alinea on the back of your moped? Wait 45 minutes for a 3AM bus back from Wicker Park?
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Old 07-08-2009, 07:34 PM
 
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I lived in Manhattan for 2 years. SF is hardly a prime center.

And I didn't say 126k is wealthy. And I didn't say that was my building's income. You have trouble with reading comprehension.

You are a real douche.
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Old 07-08-2009, 07:50 PM
 
Location: Illinois
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Wow… I was joking about the “selling” your city thing. I wanted to know what you enjoyed about where you lived and any other things you can only learn about the city from experience. I didn’t know this was the 7 millionth thread on this issue. I just took a chance and posted. If no one answered that would have been fine. No one wants to dig through pages and pages of threads to find answers. I had no idea that this would turn into a war between “weirdos” and car lovers. Thanks for the advice and sorry about the drama. I would appreciate it if someone closed this thread.
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Old 07-08-2009, 08:04 PM
 
Location: Oak Park, IL
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Wow… I was joking about the “selling” your city thing. I wanted to know what you enjoyed about where you lived and any other things you can only learn about the city from experience. I didn’t know this was the 7 millionth thread on this issue. I just took a chance and posted. If no one answered that would have been fine. No one wants to dig through pages and pages of threads to find answers. I had no idea that this would turn into a war between “weirdos” and car lovers. Thanks for the advice and sorry about the drama. I would appreciate it if someone closed this thread.
Hey, no worries. You just can't predict how a thread is going to turn out when you start it. A lot of threads have gone off on even stranger tangents than this one. Some of us are just having fun with juvenile humor, others get their jollies engaging in flame wars. The barrier to entry to post on city-data is pretty low so you get all sorts, even some "weirdos" who prefer car-free living.
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Old 07-08-2009, 09:02 PM
 
Location: Andersonville, Chicago
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What are you going to do, skateboard to Whole Foods? Take a lady to Alinea on the back of your moped? Wait 45 minutes for a 3AM bus back from Wicker Park?
There are these newfangled things called 'cabs.' Look into it.
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Old 07-08-2009, 11:10 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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Fun with extremes!

Back to the point. Many people live car-free and quite happy. Many others have a car per household. Others have more than one. The nice thing about Chicago is that you have the ability to choose how much or how little you'd like to allocate to transportation.
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Old 07-09-2009, 12:29 PM
 
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Fun with extremes!

Back to the point. Many people live car-free and quite happy. Many others have a car per household. Others have more than one. The nice thing about Chicago is that you have the ability to choose how much or how little you'd like to allocate to transportation.
Which wraps it all up.

Bravo!

*golf clap*


.... as I've been advised by my attorney to refrain from the ass pats.
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Old 07-09-2009, 10:11 PM
 
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Which wraps it all up.

.... as I've been advised by my attorney to refrain from the ass pats.
If I remember correctly, I stated quite the opposite
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