There are 14 mixed income developments in the city are they all having the same problems as Westhaven? (Chicago: low income, condos)

[ChiMack]

i wonder what will happen to this building in the future, will it go down and fail or will they kick the troublesome tenants out, i kind of feel bad for the people who bought there, i wonder if they will be selling their condos or if they will try to stick it out.

CHA mixed-income building has class clash -- chicagotribune.com

[ajolotl]

Sounds like hell on earth. THere are some awfully idealistic people in the world.

[jcarlilesiu]

What a mess.

The thing that really burns me is the fact that some people pay $225,000 for a condo, and their next door neighbors get theirs at an undisclosed cost... pennies on the dollar.

The segregation of ghetto housing projects was deemed a failure for one simple reason. The outcome of the residents didnt result as expected. When communities were developed to house low income people, it was expected that the community would rally together and provide for a positive individual outcome.

That didn't happen obviously as gangs, drugs, and other undesirable and illegal activites overran these developments. So what now?

Lets put them in a mixed building among professional people and maybe that will push them to take the desired steps to turn their life around. Instead, we have working people, paying good money for their home, being used as lab rats in an effort to accomodate a few who obviously can't get it together.

[Venom]

This is hilarious.

[paytonc]

I doubt that many are having quite the same problem. What to do with those not-quite-public, not-quite-private spaces like hallways, stairs, and lobbies is an issue for any multifamily building -- and one that HOPE VI strived to eliminate by, well, getting rid of elevator buildings and pretty much requiring low-rise, "ground-related" housing (where every unit has a separate entrance from ground level).

Regardless of your neighbors, the quality of the building's management makes all the difference in multifamily housing. They're kind of like hotels: there are really bad expensive ones, and really great cheap ones, but in the end it comes down to service.

[lenniel]

Originally Posted by Venom

This is hilarious.

Venom, I'm with you. I found this sort of funny. What the hell were these people thinking when they bought into a mixed income/project building? That's just plain stupid.

You've got people working 9-5 and others getting a govt check in the mail every 2 weeks just hanging out doing nothing.

I would love for some of these liberal social scientist to put their money where their mouth in an move into one of these developments. They would last about 1 week.

[jdiddy]

Originally Posted by ChiMack

i wonder what will happen to this building in the future, will it go down and fail or will they kick the troublesome tenants out, i kind of feel bad for the people who bought there, i wonder if they will be selling their condos or if they will try to stick it out.

CHA mixed-income building has class clash -- chicagotribune.com

Why do you ask? What's your interest in this?

[ChiMack]

Originally Posted by jdiddy

Why do you ask?

cause i can..duh

[jdiddy]

Originally Posted by ChiMack

cause i can..duh

Clearly.

But you can do lots of things that you don't. So why do you choose to constantly start new threads about every negative thing in Chicago? How's public housing transformation doing in NYC? Have you started a thread to find out?

[ChiMack]

Originally Posted by jdiddy

Clearly.

But you can do lots of things that you don't. So why do you choose to constantly start new threads about every negative thing in Chicago? How's public housing transformation doing in NYC? Have you started a thread to find out?

there really isnt a public housing transformation in nyc they were talking about privatizing the public housing here, plus i know a few people that live in harlem close to some public housing and i have been there at night and everything was cool