10-31-2010, 02:06 AM
Location: South Chicagoland
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chitown85
This can happen in any neighborhood or even some suburbs. The chance of it happening are higher in Humboldt Park. What is your budget and where do you want to live?
What? Getting mugged? That can happen outside a gas station in the shticks if you're unlucky enough.
A cokehead can mug you in a rich suburban neighborhood. My cousin's ex-boyfriend got arrested for robbing a convenience store in "zero crime" Bumfuk, Indiana.
You are more likely to be a victim of crime in a place like Humboldt Park. But I'm just saying that it can happen anywhere.
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10-31-2010, 02:26 AM
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urza216
What? Getting mugged? That can happen outside a gas station in the shticks if you're unlucky enough.
A cokehead can mug you in a rich suburban neighborhood. My cousin's ex-boyfriend got arrested for robbing a convenience store in "zero crime" Bumfuk, Indiana.
You are more likely to be a victim of crime in a place like Humboldt Park. But I'm just saying that it can happen anywhere.
Yea.. i donno i havent had a good experience with Humboldt Park.. loud music at night, fights around my house, gun shots almost every night, constant police involvment. and like you guys said this is only east side of the park.. west side is much worse
10-31-2010, 07:14 AM
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What are you waiting for?? Start looking for a new place to live. Get somewhere safer immediately. The stuff you are describing does not happen very much in the safer areas. True you can still be a victim of a crime but the stats are more in your favor.
10-31-2010, 08:42 AM
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really, gun shots every night?
I lived in East Humboldt Park, a few blocks further west but still east of the park and I can count on one hand the number of times I heard gun shots over the course of 16 months. I didn't hear many fights, though during the summer, I did hear plenty of loud conversations while people were having outdoor parties. as for loud music, yes, there's plenty of that, but good luck moving to an area w/ lots of college kids. I live in Roscoe Village and one of my neighbors likes to blast music at night.
I also lived in West Humboldt Park. yes, it's rough, but no daily gunshots. sketchy people galore, but no daily gunshots ( I think I heard more gun shots in EHP than WHP but that could easily be explained by the Puerto Rican festival in the park)
anyways, different strokes for different folks I guess. if the area makes you so uncomfortable, more. just realize that loud arguments and music can be found almost anywhere in the city, esp. in safer areas w/ a large college student population. if you're looking to avoid those, I'd maybe move to somewhere like Jefferson Park or some other suburban-like area of Chicago w/ mostly older adults/families.
ETA: you STILL haven't told us your budget. saying you make 45K/year doesn't tell us how much you can budget for housing
10-31-2010, 11:36 AM
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chitown85
This can happen in any neighborhood or even some suburbs...
Really? I mean technically it's true, but the odds are somewhere around a million to one in neighborhoods like Mt. Greenwood or Edison Park.
10-31-2010, 03:04 PM
Location: Chicago
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...I lived in East Humboldt Park, a few blocks further west but still east of the park and I can count on one hand the number of times I heard gun shots over the course of 16 months...
The Humboldt Park "community area" is in the top 5 for murders each of the last 2 years I believe (just like the old days) and most of those murders were by gunshot(s).
So just because you did not hear them does not mean people were not getting injured or killed.
10-31-2010, 03:36 PM
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The Humboldt Park "community area" is in the top 5 for murders each of the last 2 years I believe (just like the old days) and most of those murders were by gunshot(s).
never said they weren't, I'm just doubting the "everyday" thing. again, I doubt gunshots were going off daily/every other day but then again, I typically sleep 6-8 hours and am outside the area 4-8 hours a day, so maybe people were popping off gun then. didn't bother me.
I can say that my roommates and I came close to signing off on 3 different apartments in the area bordered by Western, North, California, and Division and all 3 apparently rented out w/in 2 weeks, so there are some people moving into the area (going by this minor example), which likely wouldn't be so if guns were going off daily or even multiple times a week. no one is doubting it's a rough area and not suitable to all, but it's not a war zone, at least the eastern part of it
as a side note, seriously OP, don't let any conversations here influence you. if you don't like it and you aren't tied down to a lease, there's NOTHING stopping you from moving out and finding a more suitable location. not sure what you're looking for in this thread...
10-31-2010, 04:09 PM
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I didn't know people with college degrees were allowed to live in Humboldt Park.
10-31-2010, 04:13 PM
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I didn't know people with college degrees were allowed to live in Humboldt Park.
Some people can't budget their money well preferring to party and fritter it away.
Of course, some people have huge loan amounts to pay off from going to college.
And some are a combination of both.
Then there are others that are saving money by living in crap or iffy neighborhoods.
11-01-2010, 10:10 AM
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never said they weren't, I'm just doubting the "everyday" thing. again, I doubt gunshots were going off daily/every other day but then again, I typically sleep 6-8 hours and am outside the area 4-8 hours a day, so maybe people were popping off gun then. didn't bother me.
I've had the same experience. Maybe I'm just totally oblivious, but I have been living on Campbell between Hirsh and Potomac for 3 years now and haven't had any experiences like what many people have posted here. I haven't noticed any gunshots and I have no trouble getting sleep due to neighborhood noise. The only exception to the noise is the first 4th of July I lived on that block (in 2008) there were a TON of fireworks and they kept me up.
The worst we have experienced has been petty property crime. Some idiot broke one of our basement windows, which set off the alarm, and he/she/they ran off. Nothing was stolen. The only other incident was someone breaking into our garage. He was clearly high at the time. He did it at 9:00 on a Saturday and was caught by the police in the act. He got away with my husband's MP3 player, but that's it. Both of those things happened over a year ago now.
As for no one with a degree living in HP, well, that's just not true. My husband and I have the means to live wherever we want to in Chicago or the suburbs. We found a house we loved in HP and we're content where we are. We could sell it and move, but we're not doing that. We had just as many crime incidents living in the nice part of Evanston as we have in HP anyway.
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People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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