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Old 08-31-2009, 08:05 PM
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You sound like a pissed off registered sex offender?
I'm not talking about the 19 year old and his 17 year old girl having consensual sex, I'm talking about 45 year olds victimizing children, for example 6, 8, 10 year olds. If a molester can't tell the difference between right and wrong, well, they probably shouldn't be walking the streets anyway and need to be either incarcerated or put down.
Giving child molesters a chance to reoffend is the problem. This should be a 1 strike and you're out situation. If a person can't control themselve and decides to prey on children, well, then they should get their freedom card taken away and spend the rest of their days in jail or in the ground. And don't give me this BS about them having a 'disease' or 'sickness'. If that's the case, then again, I say protect the children and lock these sickos up until they pass away.
You sound like a douchebag?

All I did was state facts and that makes me one of "the enemy" now? Like that even would invalidate my argument. I have a really hard time doing anything to defend pedophiles but I hate people like you more than I hate them. This anti-logical state of mind is what is wrong with our country, this black-and-white, us-vs.-them, mentality of hatred. You need to stop thinking with your feelings and use your damn head. Stir up a culture of lynch mobs if you like, but don't forget that someday, like-minded people might find a reason to come lynch you.
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Old 08-31-2009, 10:19 PM
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...I have a really hard time doing anything to defend pedophiles but I hate people like you more than I hate them...
That is a pretty disturbing statement.

Anyway carry on.

I am not part of this argument and do not wish to be.
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Old 09-01-2009, 11:12 AM
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You sound like a douchebag?

All I did was state facts and that makes me one of "the enemy" now? Like that even would invalidate my argument. I have a really hard time doing anything to defend pedophiles but I hate people like you more than I hate them. This anti-logical state of mind is what is wrong with our country, this black-and-white, us-vs.-them, mentality of hatred. You need to stop thinking with your feelings and use your damn head. Stir up a culture of lynch mobs if you like, but don't forget that someday, like-minded people might find a reason to come lynch you.
I never said you were the enemy (unless you're in fact, on the sex offender list, in which case, yes, you would be the enemy), but someone defending a pedophile or molester in anyway deserves no respect from me. Do I have a mentality of hatred for child molesters? Hell yes! And I'm proud of it. If the child molester on my block ends up in the alley behind his house with no pulse, I won't feel the least bit of remorse for him whatsoever. I might even have a little party to celebrate that he's no longer around to possibly reoffend.
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Old 09-02-2009, 09:39 AM
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This guy's got my vote!

Sand Springs Lawmaker Wants Death For Repeat Child Molesters - News9.com - Oklahoma City, OK - News, Weather, Video and Sports |
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Old 09-03-2009, 10:20 AM
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Shortly after my husband and I were married, a friend of ours was accused of molestation by his 14-year-old babysitter. He was arrested and promptly lost his job. He had full custody of his two young children, who were taken away and sent to live with their useless mother. We didn't believe the charges, not simply because he was our friend, but because we were named witnesses for events that never happened (nonexistent parties where he supposedly led her into another room). Our friend was accused of fondling her breasts and performing oral sex on her. Naturally there was no evidence, as these instances supposedly took place weeks before. Our friend could only rely on the lack of evidence, the people (such as us) who testified that the circumstances around the events did not happen, his several character witnesses, and the fect that her bizarre stories changed several times in the course of the trial. It was in this room--it was in that room--we were naked--no wait, he was naked but I wasn't--wait, I mean I was naked but he wasn't. We were hopeful that everything would turn out OK for our friend.

It didn't. He was convicted and sent to prison for a year. He is a registered sex offender for the rest of his life and probably has quite a bit of trouble getting a job. He was convicted of oral copulation with a child under 16, which probably sparks quite a bit of outrage. We haven't seen or spoken to him since he got out of prison. That girl has an obvious crush on our friend, as well as my husband, and as badly as we felt about it, we had to distance ourselves from him. He'll never have custody of his children again ... well, his daughter is probably 18 now, anyway, and very likely completely screwed up. Her mother and stepfather were not good people, and who knows what she thinks about the whole situation with her father.

The problem with Megan's Law and all it entails is that nobody knows the whole story. Someone could find my friend on a sex offender site, see "oral copulation with a child," and start railing on the Internet about how he should be castrated, locked up forever or killed. I doubt one person would ever read the court transcripts and think, "Hmmm, maybe this guy was railroaded by a spurned little girl and a stupid jury. Maybe the public defender wasn't very good at his job."

Look, I'm a parent. I have three kids, and when I hear about the truly horrible things that some people do--brutal rapes and strangulation and all that--I think I could easily take justice into my own hands. I know that if something happened to one of my children, my fury and need for vengeance would be extreme. But I have to step back and think about my friend. There are a lot of sexual criminals running free, but there are also a lot of innocent men behind bars or on that registry for the rest of their lives. Until any of us know the facts, and I mean beyond what we read in some lurid article, it's best just to stay out of it.
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Old 09-03-2009, 10:48 AM
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I hear your point. Obviously, there's a grey line in this "child molestation" thing. I think the hard and fast rule of 18 and under = child is kind of goofy, especially with the sexualization of teens in our society (ie, look at mtv for examples). More so, it's sort of an injustice to real child sexual abuse victims to label a 21 year old as a sex offender because he had consensual sex with a 17 year old.

But, if a you have a straight up child molester, especially a repeat offender...two words: chop chop.










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Old 09-03-2009, 10:54 AM
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He's a 45 yr old man who tried to (or successfully) lure an 11 yr old girl into his car. Rumor is that at our recent block party, he made some inappropriate comments to some young girls who then told their parents.

Anyone else have this issue?

"Rumor is"?
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Old 09-04-2009, 01:15 PM
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Any one hear about the pondscum that was released after serving time for rape and promptly raped two women in Lake View and at the southern edge of Lincoln Park?

"Cook County authorities tried multiple times to flag convicted rapist Julius Anderson as a sexually violent person who belonged behind bars indefinitely, but state corrections officials insisted he be released on parole...

...Within eight days of walking out of the halfway house Aug. 7, he forced a 25-year-old woman into a gangway and held her for 30 minutes at knifepoint as he sexually assaulted her, authorities said...

...Anderson was found not fit to stand trial for his first sexual offense in 1973 and was sent to the Chester Mental Health facility, according to his case file. Upon release from that institution he was subsequently found fit to face the charges and was sentenced to 4 years in prison...

...Upon his release in March 1977, he returned to raping and robbing women within months...

...During his time in prison, Anderson incurred 99 infractions for offenses including hitting a correctional officer in the face, stabbing an inmate, grabbing a female medical technician by the collar and starting a fire between cell doors. The last infraction was in 2004...

...Anderson was released from Big Muddy River Correctional Center on June 25...

...Like he did in the past, he returned to his violent ways in a matter of months, attacking a 25-year-old woman Aug. 15 in the 1700 block of West Cornelia Avenue after as she got out of a cab, prosecutors said. He allegedly assaulted her in a gangway, holding her against her will with a knife for 30 minutes, prosecutors said...

...Then on Tuesday, Anderson allegedly followed a 28-year-old woman off the Red Line from the North and Clybourn stop, pushing his way into her building as she fumbled with her keys, the state's attorney's office said. He allegedly restrained her with electrical tape and electrical cord and assaulted her...



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Old 09-04-2009, 01:28 PM
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Sounds like he should be in prison for life. I wouldn't be particularly sad if someone killed him, though, except to feel sorry that someone lived such a rotten, broken life.
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Old 09-04-2009, 05:15 PM
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Sounds like he should be in prison for life. I wouldn't be particularly sad if someone killed him, though, except to feel sorry that someone lived such a rotten, broken life.
I thought it was interesting how this guy hung his head during sentencing. Shame? I understand that many sexual abusers were abused themselves. It doesn't make it right but like many a bad thing, is a vicious circle.

And ya, he should never have been released.
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