Had it with the CTA... (Chicago, Normal: construction, live, bus)

[Avengerfire]

Originally Posted by supernerdgirl

... of course it makes more sense to have stops at Irving-Montrose-ish-Lawrence, but it's just not going to happen.

...besides, before I'd demolish Wilson, I'd at least put a freaking STATION HOUSE at Lawrence.

I don't think it is impossible to do. Yes it would have been easier to build before the the Wilson Yard project was built. No question.

Yes, the Lawrence station needs a station house. They tore it down in 1995. How in the world has it been almost 15 years and they still have not built a new station house? WTF?

[Lookout Kid]

Originally Posted by Avengerfire

Wilson is just as useless. The stop needs to be moved farther south. The station would be much safer the closer it is to the housing close to Montrose and Broadway,Jewel,Aldi,Target,Truman,and the new parking garages being built. Perhaps there can be a couple of police officers posted at this new stop 24 hours a day. Some money from Truman's budget as well as perhaps some money from Target and Aldi can get this accomplished.

Imagine a CTA stop fully integrated with shopping,housing,parking, and a college.

The station could be covered much like the IIT Green Line stop.

Make Uptown a destination again-not a place to avoid.

There used to be a stop between Wilson and Sheridan at Buena, but it was demolished in 1949. The Buena Circle play lot is located there now. The station house is still there, but is used as some kind of storage. And you can see where the huge steel girders were sawed off to remove the platforms.

Chicago ''L''.org: Stations - Buena

[Avengerfire]

Originally Posted by Lookout Kid

There used to be a stop between Wilson and Sheridan at Buena, but it was demolished in 1949. The Buena Circle play lot is located there now. The station house is still there, but is used as some kind of storage. And you can see where the huge steel girders were sawed off to remove the platforms.

Chicago ''L''.org: Stations - Buena

Yeah I know about that stop. There used to be a stop at Grace as well.

[Lookout Kid]

Originally Posted by Avengerfire

Yeah I know about that stop. There used to be a stop at Grace as well.

And another one at the Clark Street junction.

[Swandaddy]

Originally Posted by Avengerfire

Wilson is just as useless. The stop needs to be moved farther south. The station would be much safer the closer it is to the housing close to Montrose and Broadway,Jewel,Aldi,Target,Truman,and the new parking garages being built. Perhaps there can be a couple of police officers posted at this new stop 24 hours a day. Some money from Truman's budget as well as perhaps some money from Target and Aldi can get this accomplished.

Imagine a CTA stop fully integrated with shopping,housing,parking, and a college.

The station could be covered much like the IIT Green Line stop.

Make Uptown a destination again-not a place to avoid.

Definitely sounds nice, but the snarky side of me would be happy with the elimination of the slow zones b/w Addison and Lawrence, especially that brutal one b/w Sheridan and Wilson. It takes almost 20 minutes to get from Granville to Belmont. Ridiculous!

[Avengerfire]

Originally Posted by Swandaddy

...especially that brutal one b/w Sheridan and Wilson. It takes almost 20 minutes to get from Granville to Belmont. Ridiculous!

They have been working on that area for like 3 years. They need to get that crap done already. Unacceptable.

[Drover]

Originally Posted by Rambler6

I've always thought they've utilized the trains and busses all wrong. Bussess should be used only for short distance routes while trains should be used for long distance, express routes.

The redline has way, way too many stops, especially when you get past Addison. If I want to get Downtown from Jarvis or somewhere north, it takes over an hour with all the stops.

Yeah, some of the Red Line stops are unnecessary and redundant. They could probably do away with the Wellington, Argyle, and Granville stops. But the bigger issue on the red line is the condition of the tracks and the viaducts north of Sheridan. And that's an issue that won't be resolved without a serious infusion of capital. But before the CTA invented and then perfected the slow zone, it used to take me half an hour to get from Bryn Mawr to downtown on the Red Line back in the 90s.

Many bus routes aren't intended as commuter routes so much as local routes. Even though they may travel long distances from beginning to end of their route, nobody's really riding them that whole distance. Riders are using them for short runs from one end of their neighborhood to another, or perhaps to an adjacent neighborhood, or as a connection from their neighborhood to the nearest L station. Plus many of those long routes are necessary to cover gaps that are not served by trains. It would be nice to see more train lines added, but that would be such a huge infrastructure project that I don't see it happening in my lifetime unless there's a seismic shift in how the nation as a whole funds transportation projects.

[scarletneon]

Originally Posted by Drover

Yeah, some of the Red Line stops are unnecessary and redundant. They could probably do away with the Wellington, Argyle, and Granville stops. But the bigger issue on the red line is the condition of the tracks and the viaducts north of Sheridan. And that's an issue that won't be resolved without a serious infusion of capital. But before the CTA invented and then perfected the slow zone, it used to take me half an hour to get from Bryn Mawr to downtown on the Red Line back in the 90s.

Many bus routes aren't intended as commuter routes so much as local routes. Even though they may travel long distances from beginning to end of their route, nobody's really riding them that whole distance. Riders are using them for short runs from one end of their neighborhood to another, or perhaps to an adjacent neighborhood, or as a connection from their neighborhood to the nearest L station. Plus many of those long routes are necessary to cover gaps that are not served by trains. It would be nice to see more train lines added, but that would be such a huge infrastructure project that I don't see it happening in my lifetime unless there's a seismic shift in how the nation as a whole funds transportation projects.

I've heard Wellington stayed mostly because of the hospital.

And you have to wonder what would happen to the little retail strips near the stops if Granville or Argyle were closed.

And, you guys, at least we're not going 6 mph between Wilson and Sheridan anymore (as we were when I first moved here) ... the slowest time though is between rush periods, because if I leave before 9, I can get from Bryn Mawr to UIC in 45.

[skipcromer]

Originally Posted by Drover

Yeah, some of the Red Line stops are unnecessary and redundant. They could probably do away with the Wellington, Argyle, and Granville stops. But the bigger issue on the red line is the condition of the tracks and the viaducts north of Sheridan. And that's an issue that won't be resolved without a serious infusion of capital. But before the CTA invented and then perfected the slow zone, it used to take me half an hour to get from Bryn Mawr to downtown on the Red Line back in the 90s.

Many bus routes aren't intended as commuter routes so much as local routes. Even though they may travel long distances from beginning to end of their route, nobody's really riding them that whole distance. Riders are using them for short runs from one end of their neighborhood to another, or perhaps to an adjacent neighborhood, or as a connection from their neighborhood to the nearest L station. Plus many of those long routes are necessary to cover gaps that are not served by trains. It would be nice to see more train lines added, but that would be such a huge infrastructure project that I don't see it happening in my lifetime unless there's a seismic shift in how the nation as a whole funds transportation projects.

Red Line doesnt stop at Wellington...

[jcarlilesiu]

Originally Posted by supernerdgirl

nope.

but in my experience it has not gotten worse, and has in fact gotten better since I've moved here.

sorry!

Im glad YOUR experience is the defining factor in the service of the CTA.

Live in a bubble much?