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Old 04-11-2010, 11:20 AM
 
Location: Chicago: Beverly, Woodlawn
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That's because, given the demographics, the situation couldn't replicate itself in Denver. It's not because people in Denver are fundamentally more enlightened.
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Old 04-11-2010, 11:23 AM
 
Location: Kent, Washington
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The people in Denver took their racism out on the Indians; Sand Creek. Nits make lice.
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Old 04-11-2010, 11:30 AM
 
Location: Johnstown, CO
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That's because, given the demographics, the situation couldn't replicate itself in Denver. It's not because people in Denver are fundamentally more enlightened.
And why is that? Is racism only confined to areas that meet certain criteria?
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Old 04-11-2010, 11:35 AM
 
Location: Chicago: Beverly, Woodlawn
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No, racists are everywhere -- probably just as many per capita in Denver as in Chicago. Difference is that those in Denver don't have their real beliefs tested, so they can claim not to be racist (it's easy to do), pat themselves on the back and look down on people who live on the south side of Chicago, and never have to live what comes out of their mouths. Maybe a black friend or two and a trip to a bar in the heart of Five Points once a year will round out their self-congratulatory view of themselves as enlightened and beyond these issues.

I do have a funny memory of being at Denny's near Spear Avenue (can't quite recall the intersection -- near a light rail stop) and the hostess refused to seat a group of three Mexican guys. First time I had ever seen that before.
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Old 04-11-2010, 11:36 AM
 
Location: Johnstown, CO
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The people in Denver took their racism out on the Indians; Sand Creek. Nits make lice.
1864 = 2010?
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Old 04-11-2010, 11:43 AM
 
Location: Kent, Washington
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1864 = 2010?

Now your horses are higher.
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Old 04-11-2010, 11:53 AM
 
Location: Johnstown, CO
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No, racists are everywhere -- probably just as many per capita in Denver as in Chicago. Difference is that those in Denver don't have their real beliefs tested, so they can claim not to be racist (it's easy to do), pat themselves on the back and look down on people who live on the south side of Chicago, and never have to live what comes out of their mouths. Maybe a black friend or two and a trip to a bar in the heart of Five Points once a year will round out their self-congratulatory view of themselves as enlightened and beyond these issues.
I can't say I disagree with this, with the exception of the bold. Denverites have their real beliefs tested every time they pick somewhere to live, and every time they decide what schools their children go to -- with some areas seeing results that I'm not particularly in agreement with.

Having said that, I don't envision your Mt. Greenwood-style episode occurring anywhere around here, even in working-class white areas.

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I do have a funny memory of being at Denny's near Spear Avenue (can't quite recall the intersection -- near a light rail stop) and the hostess refused to seat a group of three Mexican guys. First time I had ever seen that before.
Having previously worked at a Denny's, there may have been another reason for that.
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Old 04-11-2010, 01:22 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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Just go join the Gaylords or something Poker...
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Old 04-11-2010, 01:39 PM
 
Location: Southwest Suburbs
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Brought the kids to Mt. Greenwood Park last night. If you've never been, it has an incredible new kids play area and a new Ben & Jerry's across the street. There were probably 100 families taking advantage of a warm night. About 98 were kind of middle or working class looking white kids (many overfed). I saw one or two black families. Next to the park there were about 50-75 teenagers hanging out on the bleachers near the baseball diamond. 100% of them were white (this will become relevant in a minute). Reminded me of 1980 in Bridgeport.

At sunset most of the young kids started to leave and groups of teenagers starting descending on the park. Nothing abnormal -- they were just doing typical teenager stuff. Then one group of about six came jogging through the park with two of the kids screaming at the top of their lungs -- "all sp*cs and ni**ers out of the fu**ing park! get the f*ck out. Time to get the f**k out. They were acting like wild animals. A group came running up to them pointing toward a black family. They started running toward them screaming "get the f**k out". A crowd formed. I don't think anything happened but it was a total freak show.

Honestly, I had no clue this stuff still happened. If you're white and want to travel back in time 25 years for kicks, you should visit. If you're black or latino I would avoid the place. Not sure why blacks would even want to pass through Mt. Greenwood let alone move there.
Well lets get a fews things out of the way. Mt Greenwood was 93% white in 2000 and probably still is. Driving through there, it still look majority white with a strong Irish presence and a few token black kids here and there. Mt Greenwood is one of the two last 90% or more white neighborhoods left in the city, the other one is on the far Northwest side. With that being said, these punk azz white teenagers don't won't their neighborhoods demographics to change. This could happen in a 99% black neighborhood like Roseland. Believe me there are some black teens bold enough to yell out "honky" and "cracker", maybe not point in there faces, but would yell it out from a distance. Even worse, beat up that one white kid(usually male) just walking past. Usually these type of black teens are in gangs and would do the same to an innocent black teen.

Its a messed up mentality that been in Chicago for far too long. Not surprise this happen in Mt. Greenwood. The old racist white guy we heard about two weeks ago live there.
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Old 04-11-2010, 01:47 PM
 
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If that's the way to try to save what's left of the South Side, then there's no hope.
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