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Old 06-10-2010, 06:55 PM
 
Location: Cleveland, Ohio
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How is it the biggest crock ever? It's a lie. It's exactly what Satan wants people to believe, right next to believing there is no God at all.

Do you believe that Jesus is the Savior of ALL men, especially of those that believe??
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Old 06-10-2010, 06:56 PM
 
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I agree.

Yes, Satan wants to give people hope in this very dark and chaotic place. That is his job.
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Old 06-10-2010, 06:58 PM
 
Location: God's Country
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Yes, Satan wants to give people hope in this very dark and chaotic place. That is his job.
He gives people false hope.
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Old 06-10-2010, 07:04 PM
 
Location: Cleveland, Ohio
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He gives people false hope.
Uh-huh.

God, and ONLY God, gives hope.

His adversary causes fear, doubt, mistrust, confusion, chaos, destruction, etc.
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Old 06-10-2010, 07:09 PM
 
Location: North Carolina
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Uh-huh.

God, and ONLY God, gives hope.

His adversary causes fear, doubt, mistrust, confusion, chaos, destruction, etc.
And what exactly does Satan do these things for if everyone is going to Heaven?
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Old 06-10-2010, 07:11 PM
 
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Uh-huh.

God, and ONLY God, gives hope.

His adversary causes fear, doubt, mistrust, confusion, chaos, destruction, etc.
The devil gives people false hope that everyone will be saved.
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Old 06-10-2010, 07:18 PM
 
Location: Cleveland, Ohio
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And what exactly does Satan do these things for if everyone is going to Heaven?
God allows people, who are also his adversaries, to run amok in a controlled "lab" to give us (like Job) a lesson. We are under a delusion of "free will." In the end, like Job, we will ABSOLUTELY understand that NOBODY has control but Him. Nobody can mess with His plans and nobody can foul his Universe up unless He so desires it. All of these things happen for a MUCH higher purpose!

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The devil gives people false hope that everyone will be saved.
Most people are NOT being salvaged at this time. In the end, when all ages are wrapped up, EVERYONE will bow and confess that Jesus is the lamb, and they will KNOW God is on His throne, and we will ALL finally GET IT; there is no such thing as "free will."

It is pretty arrogant of us to think such things, but we are like the adversary, always thinking that we are our own gods.
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Old 06-10-2010, 07:20 PM
 
Location: Seattle, Washington
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How is it the biggest crock ever? It's a lie. It's exactly what Satan wants people to believe, right next to believing there is no God at all.
Personally I would rather have no husband at all then one that beats me. Likewise, I would rather have no god at all then one that burns me forever....

Fortunately God is not a god that burns people forever! He is Love (John 4:7-8) and love doesn't burn people.
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Old 06-10-2010, 07:21 PM
 
Location: Seattle, Washington
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Anyone ever wonder if a devil is causing people to go to a hell why God just doesn't deal with the problem and take him out?
I did wonder that for a long time...
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Old 06-10-2010, 07:25 PM
 
Location: North Carolina
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God allows people, who are also his adversaries, to run amok in a controlled "lab" to give us (like Job) a lesson. We are under a delusion of "free will." In the end, like Job, we will ABSOLUTELY understand that NOBODY has control but Him. Nobody can mess with His plans and nobody can foul his Universe up unless He so desires it. All of these things happen for a MUCH higher purpose!



Most people are NOT being salvaged at this time. In the end, when all ages are wrapped up, EVERYONE will bow and confess that Jesus is the lamb and God is on His throne, and we will ALL know that there is no such thing as "free will."

It is pretty arrogant of us to think such things, but we are like the adversary, always thinking that we are our own gods.
Free will is an illusion? LOL. Noooooooo. There is NO POINT in God creating humanity if free will is an illusion.
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