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Old 06-21-2010, 10:41 AM
 
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The Book of Enoch, in the Totemic imagery of the nations' dream visions, reveals that Adam was white, Eve black, Cain black, Abel red. Seth in the image/likeness of his papa means nothing more than Seth was the first white seed of Adam, born of Eve.

There was, in Enoch, no "yellow" or "green/olive" or purplish [some black skin tones] seed. Those variations of skin tone are from the mixed genetic information of Adam's genes, when the black and white melanin information is mixed in differing amounts. Red was the first mixture variation, in Abel.

The sons of the gods -the nephillim/titans- were "white", mostly blonde. When Noah was born, he was so white and shining, and spoke at birth, praising God, that his daddy, Lamech, accused his wife of fornicating with the fallen Watchers, and did not believe that Noah was his, for his whiteness. Lamech fled to his daddy, Methusaleh, to seek advice about why Noah was so white and shining and spoke. Methusaleh then fled to the gates of Eden to call out to Enoch, who was translated and dwelling with the holy Watcher angels, there. *
Methusaleh called out to Enoch from the gates of Eden; "Hear me"! "Hear Me"! "Hear me"! three times; and Enoch came to him and gave the prophetic assurance that Noah was indeed Lamech's seed, and would survive the flood, etc...

Then, in the dream visions of the history of the world, with the tribes depicted in totemic imagery, Noah's three sons were black, red, and white.
The tribes descending from the three sons of Noah and their multicolored wives were not separated by color, at Babel, but by tongues. Seventy tongues were the separation of the tribes, at Babel, and those tribes began to scatter out over the earth by tongue division, becoming more and more genetically isolated, and shrinking the gene pool for variations in physical characteristics, because of the scattering by language barriers.
As they scattered, and as the seventy tongues continued to divide like tree branches, to the five thousand plus of modern times, there was never a barrier made by skin color or any other physical characteristic, but by language.
Children were varying shades of colors, mixed from the first parents, the black Eve and white Adam.
As tribes scattered, they fought because of language barriers at first, but then because of any reason. Brother fought, and fights, brother, with no distinction of color. Black and middle brown Arabs fought black and middle brown blacks, enslaving them, in ancient times -and do in modern times.
Nimrod, the first tribal conqueror and dictator, and Nebuchadnezzar, his direct descendant, were both black. Nebuchadnezzar ruled the entire world, "wherever man, beast, and fowl dwelt" -the entire globe. Nebuchadnezzar was the first king of all the kings of the world, by conquest. Colossal images of the face of Nebuchadnezzar, the first one world/global ruler, who was called the "king of kings", by YHWH, in Daniel 4, have been dug up in Mexico, in the area of the Olmecs, who were waning in their culture's height of achievements, already, when Nebuchadnezzar ruled the kings -who ruled the kings... who ruled them.

All this is said to put to rest the idea of superiority of any skin color, in the eyes of the Creator, who made all Adam-kind of one blood, one flesh, one spirit, one bone, and male and female; and wrote each seed of Adam in the Book of Life, before creation, to come forth in the pre-ordained time, in the pre-ordained tribes/famlies, in the pre-ordained boundaries [days to live]of their "habitation [bodies]", as the Book of Enoch, the OT, and the NT teach us, "for His glory".

Malachi 2:15 -One Adam spirit [each seed come to fruit has their own share/remnant of the Adam spirit].

Genesis 5:2 One Adam kind/race, made Male and female.

Genesis 2: 23; Acts 17: 25,26. One Adam kind flesh, one Adam kind bone, one Adam kind blood [the blood is made from the bone marrow]; male and female persons make one flesh.

Abraham had two black wives/ishyah, in the course of his life; Hagar and Keturah. Sarai was white.

Moses married a black wife in Cush/Ethiopia, but never went in to her. The marriage was for politicical expediency. When Moses took the throne of Cush, he got the late king's wife [Jasher -"And all the people and nobles swore unto him to give him for a wife Adoniah the queen, the Cush -ite/Ethiopian, wife of Kikianus, and they made Moses king over them on that day. Book of Jasher 72 ]. Miriam was struck with leprosy for speaking against Moses because of the Ethiopian wife he had married [he had also left her in Ethiopia, when her son grew up, who was the late king's heir, who took the throne. Moses departed in peace, with gifts from the Chus -ites, to Midian].
In Midian, Moses married Zipporah, a Midianite, descended from Abraham through the Canaanite woman, Keturah, whom he married after Sarah died. Only in Jasher is the story told of the Egyptian wife of Moses which is mentioned in Exodus. Jasher. What is told in Jasher is redacted in Moses' Genesis record. -And I believe there is enoguh evidence in Jasher to prove that Moses wrote Jasher -the Correct/Upright record", as the longer form of history, which he does redact for the Torah, esp his own history.

Joseph married a black Egyptian wife, and many of the sons of Jacob took Canaanite wives, and the shades of skin colors varied, then, as they do today, in the descendants of Jacob, who have among themselves Asian Jews, black African Jews, and "white" European Jews, among others, and red, olive, black and white skin tones among the tribes -with all manner of variations of the skin tones and hair, eyes, etc.

* Mount Eden: the heavenly realm/Mount Zion above, which Adam was cast out from and gated from entering into, which gate was guarded by Cherubim with flaming swords, so that no Adam could enter and eat of the Tree of Life and live forever in the unclean Adam flesh. For if they had, there would be no hope for redemption by cleansing and rebirth of Spirit and Flesh, for the Glory to dwell in them, which glory Adam lost, at the fall.

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Old 10-27-2010, 01:15 PM
 
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where can I get this info? From the Bible or the book of Enoch?
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Old 10-27-2010, 05:50 PM
 
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where can I get this info? From the Bible or the book of Enoch?
What part do you want to read about -tell me and I will give you links.

The Book of Enoch
Book of Jasher Bible - SpeedBible by johnhurt.com
Book of Jasher Bible - SpeedBible by johnhurt.com
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Old 10-27-2010, 05:57 PM
 
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Sorry, science can tell us exactly how the evolution of skin color happened in homo sapiens, and it has nothing to do with religious fiction.


The Biology of Skin Color: Black and White
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Old 12-14-2010, 08:53 AM
 
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that's beautiful ...........................
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Old 12-14-2010, 12:17 PM
 
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The Book of Enoch, in the Totemic imagery of the nations' dream visions, reveals that Adam was white, Eve black, Cain black, Abel red. Seth in the image/likeness of his papa means nothing more than Seth was the first white seed of Adam, born of Eve.

There was, in Enoch, no "yellow" or "green/olive" or purplish [some black skin tones] seed. Those variations of skin tone are from the mixed genetic information of Adam's genes, when the black and white melanin information is mixed in differing amounts. Red was the first mixture variation, in Abel.

The sons of the gods -the nephillim/titans- were "white", mostly blonde. When Noah was born, he was so white and shining, and spoke at birth, praising God, that his daddy, Lamech, accused his wife of fornicating with the fallen Watchers, and did not believe that Noah was his, for his whiteness. Lamech fled to his daddy, Methusaleh, to seek advice about why Noah was so white and shining and spoke. Methusaleh then fled to the gates of Eden to call out to Enoch, who was translated and dwelling with the holy Watcher angels, there. *
Methusaleh called out to Enoch from the gates of Eden; "Hear me"! "Hear Me"! "Hear me"! three times; and Enoch came to him and gave the prophetic assurance that Noah was indeed Lamech's seed, and would survive the flood, etc...

Then, in the dream visions of the history of the world, with the tribes depicted in totemic imagery, Noah's three sons were black, red, and white.
The tribes descending from the three sons of Noah and their multicolored wives were not separated by color, at Babel, but by tongues. Seventy tongues were the separation of the tribes, at Babel, and those tribes began to scatter out over the earth by tongue division, becoming more and more genetically isolated, and shrinking the gene pool for variations in physical characteristics, because of the scattering by language barriers.
As they scattered, and as the seventy tongues continued to divide like tree branches, to the five thousand plus of modern times, there was never a barrier made by skin color or any other physical characteristic, but by language.
Children were varying shades of colors, mixed from the first parents, the black Eve and white Adam.
As tribes scattered, they fought because of language barriers at first, but then because of any reason. Brother fought, and fights, brother, with no distinction of color. Black and middle brown Arabs fought black and middle brown blacks, enslaving them, in ancient times -and do in modern times.
Nimrod, the first tribal conqueror and dictator, and Nebuchadnezzar, his direct descendant, were both black. Nebuchadnezzar ruled the entire world, "wherever man, beast, and fowl dwelt" -the entire globe. Nebuchadnezzar was the first king of all the kings of the world, by conquest. Colossal images of the face of Nebuchadnezzar, the first one world/global ruler, who was called the "king of kings", by YHWH, in Daniel 4, have been dug up in Mexico, in the area of the Olmecs, who were waning in their culture's height of achievements, already, when Nebuchadnezzar ruled the kings -who ruled the kings... who ruled them.

All this is said to put to rest the idea of superiority of any skin color, in the eyes of the Creator, who made all Adam-kind of one blood, one flesh, one spirit, one bone, and male and female; and wrote each seed of Adam in the Book of Life, before creation, to come forth in the pre-ordained time, in the pre-ordained tribes/famlies, in the pre-ordained boundaries [days to live]of their "habitation [bodies]", as the Book of Enoch, the OT, and the NT teach us, "for His glory".

Malachi 2:15 -One Adam spirit [each seed come to fruit has their own share/remnant of the Adam spirit].

Genesis 5:2 One Adam kind/race, made Male and female.

Genesis 2: 23; Acts 17: 25,26. One Adam kind flesh, one Adam kind bone, one Adam kind blood [the blood is made from the bone marrow]; male and female persons make one flesh.

Abraham had two black wives/ishyah, in the course of his life; Hagar and Keturah. Sarai was white.

Moses married a black wife in Cush/Ethiopia, but never went in to her. The marriage was for politicical expediency. When Moses took the throne of Cush, he got the late king's wife [Jasher -"And all the people and nobles swore unto him to give him for a wife Adoniah the queen, the Cush -ite/Ethiopian, wife of Kikianus, and they made Moses king over them on that day. Book of Jasher 72 ]. Miriam was struck with leprosy for speaking against Moses because of the Ethiopian wife he had married [he had also left her in Ethiopia, when her son grew up, who was the late king's heir, who took the throne. Moses departed in peace, with gifts from the Chus -ites, to Midian].
In Midian, Moses married Zipporah, a Midianite, descended from Abraham through the Canaanite woman, Keturah, whom he married after Sarah died. Only in Jasher is the story told of the Egyptian wife of Moses which is mentioned in Exodus. Jasher. What is told in Jasher is redacted in Moses' Genesis record. -And I believe there is enoguh evidence in Jasher to prove that Moses wrote Jasher -the Correct/Upright record", as the longer form of history, which he does redact for the Torah, esp his own history.

Joseph married a black Egyptian wife, and many of the sons of Jacob took Canaanite wives, and the shades of skin colors varied, then, as they do today, in the descendants of Jacob, who have among themselves Asian Jews, black African Jews, and "white" European Jews, among others, and red, olive, black and white skin tones among the tribes -with all manner of variations of the skin tones and hair, eyes, etc.

* Mount Eden: the heavenly realm/Mount Zion above, which Adam was cast out from and gated from entering into, which gate was guarded by Cherubim with flaming swords, so that no Adam could enter and eat of the Tree of Life and live forever in the unclean Adam flesh. For if they had, there would be no hope for redemption by cleansing and rebirth of Spirit and Flesh, for the Glory to dwell in them, which glory Adam lost, at the fall.
The truth of the matter is that Black and white started with Jacob and Esau. Esau is the father of the Edomites, while Jacob is the father of the other races.
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Old 12-14-2010, 12:22 PM
 
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The Book of Enoch, in the Totemic imagery of the nations' dream visions, reveals that Adam was white, Eve black, Cain black, Abel red. Seth in the image/likeness of his papa means nothing more than Seth was the first white seed of Adam, born of Eve.

There was, in Enoch, no "yellow" or "green/olive" or purplish [some black skin tones] seed. Those variations of skin tone are from the mixed genetic information of Adam's genes, when the black and white melanin information is mixed in differing amounts. Red was the first mixture variation, in Abel.

The sons of the gods -the nephillim/titans- were "white", mostly blonde. When Noah was born, he was so white and shining, and spoke at birth, praising God, that his daddy, Lamech, accused his wife of fornicating with the fallen Watchers, and did not believe that Noah was his, for his whiteness. Lamech fled to his daddy, Methusaleh, to seek advice about why Noah was so white and shining and spoke. Methusaleh then fled to the gates of Eden to call out to Enoch, who was translated and dwelling with the holy Watcher angels, there. *
Methusaleh called out to Enoch from the gates of Eden; "Hear me"! "Hear Me"! "Hear me"! three times; and Enoch came to him and gave the prophetic assurance that Noah was indeed Lamech's seed, and would survive the flood, etc...

Then, in the dream visions of the history of the world, with the tribes depicted in totemic imagery, Noah's three sons were black, red, and white.
The tribes descending from the three sons of Noah and their multicolored wives were not separated by color, at Babel, but by tongues. Seventy tongues were the separation of the tribes, at Babel, and those tribes began to scatter out over the earth by tongue division, becoming more and more genetically isolated, and shrinking the gene pool for variations in physical characteristics, because of the scattering by language barriers.
As they scattered, and as the seventy tongues continued to divide like tree branches, to the five thousand plus of modern times, there was never a barrier made by skin color or any other physical characteristic, but by language.
Children were varying shades of colors, mixed from the first parents, the black Eve and white Adam.
As tribes scattered, they fought because of language barriers at first, but then because of any reason. Brother fought, and fights, brother, with no distinction of color. Black and middle brown Arabs fought black and middle brown blacks, enslaving them, in ancient times -and do in modern times.
Nimrod, the first tribal conqueror and dictator, and Nebuchadnezzar, his direct descendant, were both black. Nebuchadnezzar ruled the entire world, "wherever man, beast, and fowl dwelt" -the entire globe. Nebuchadnezzar was the first king of all the kings of the world, by conquest. Colossal images of the face of Nebuchadnezzar, the first one world/global ruler, who was called the "king of kings", by YHWH, in Daniel 4, have been dug up in Mexico, in the area of the Olmecs, who were waning in their culture's height of achievements, already, when Nebuchadnezzar ruled the kings -who ruled the kings... who ruled them.

All this is said to put to rest the idea of superiority of any skin color, in the eyes of the Creator, who made all Adam-kind of one blood, one flesh, one spirit, one bone, and male and female; and wrote each seed of Adam in the Book of Life, before creation, to come forth in the pre-ordained time, in the pre-ordained tribes/famlies, in the pre-ordained boundaries [days to live]of their "habitation [bodies]", as the Book of Enoch, the OT, and the NT teach us, "for His glory".

Malachi 2:15 -One Adam spirit [each seed come to fruit has their own share/remnant of the Adam spirit].

Genesis 5:2 One Adam kind/race, made Male and female.

Genesis 2: 23; Acts 17: 25,26. One Adam kind flesh, one Adam kind bone, one Adam kind blood [the blood is made from the bone marrow]; male and female persons make one flesh.

Abraham had two black wives/ishyah, in the course of his life; Hagar and Keturah. Sarai was white.

Moses married a black wife in Cush/Ethiopia, but never went in to her. The marriage was for politicical expediency. When Moses took the throne of Cush, he got the late king's wife [Jasher -"And all the people and nobles swore unto him to give him for a wife Adoniah the queen, the Cush -ite/Ethiopian, wife of Kikianus, and they made Moses king over them on that day. Book of Jasher 72 ]. Miriam was struck with leprosy for speaking against Moses because of the Ethiopian wife he had married [he had also left her in Ethiopia, when her son grew up, who was the late king's heir, who took the throne. Moses departed in peace, with gifts from the Chus -ites, to Midian].
In Midian, Moses married Zipporah, a Midianite, descended from Abraham through the Canaanite woman, Keturah, whom he married after Sarah died. Only in Jasher is the story told of the Egyptian wife of Moses which is mentioned in Exodus. Jasher. What is told in Jasher is redacted in Moses' Genesis record. -And I believe there is enoguh evidence in Jasher to prove that Moses wrote Jasher -the Correct/Upright record", as the longer form of history, which he does redact for the Torah, esp his own history.

Joseph married a black Egyptian wife, and many of the sons of Jacob took Canaanite wives, and the shades of skin colors varied, then, as they do today, in the descendants of Jacob, who have among themselves Asian Jews, black African Jews, and "white" European Jews, among others, and red, olive, black and white skin tones among the tribes -with all manner of variations of the skin tones and hair, eyes, etc.

* Mount Eden: the heavenly realm/Mount Zion above, which Adam was cast out from and gated from entering into, which gate was guarded by Cherubim with flaming swords, so that no Adam could enter and eat of the Tree of Life and live forever in the unclean Adam flesh. For if they had, there would be no hope for redemption by cleansing and rebirth of Spirit and Flesh, for the Glory to dwell in them, which glory Adam lost, at the fall.
The truth of the matter is that Black and white started with Jacob and Esau. Esau is the father of the Edomites, the black race, while Jacob is the father of the other races.
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Old 12-14-2010, 12:46 PM
 
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Sorry, science can tell us exactly how the evolution of skin color happened in homo sapiens, and it has nothing to do with religious fiction.


The Biology of Skin Color: Black and White
Sorry, but science can not explain the diversity of homo-sapiens. The differences are much deeper than just skin color. There are bone and tissue structure differences that make human races what they are. I am a dark black male married to a white blonde female. The differences between my wife and I are much deeper than just skin. I am talking about head shape, facial structure, voice, hair texture, size of lips, size of nose, etc etc.

I know this is a very controversial topic, but to just say that we humans are the same beneath the skin is false. There is more than just skin that makes a black, white, or Asian looking person.

There is also the fact that certain races of people have their own native languages and writing systems. Before the globalization of the planet, blacks, whites, Asians, etc all had their own specific languages. Furthermore, there was a specific religious belief between the races as well. Each race had "Gods" that brought their particular race to Earth. Again, this is long before global religion (like Christianity) existed.

Anyways, I won't go too deep into this topic. What I will say is that religion and science IMO has got it all wrong when it comes to the origins of race on Earth.
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Old 12-14-2010, 08:28 PM
 
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Idk,I have a theory that adam and eve were both black.I think they had the perfect genome,and we know the dark traits are the dominant ones.
I think when satan stepped in and messed up the human genome,(aka the fall),that's when the other races came into play.isn't being white a mutation? I recall reading that it is.(I'm white,so nothing bad being said here).it's just that I think the recessive genes are the mutations of the original,perfect genome,of which the dominant ones are the dark ones...brown eyes,dark skin and hair.etc.,and were part of the perfect,original gemone.
JAT.
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Old 12-14-2010, 10:00 PM
 
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another thought:God did not create mutations.God created the perfect genome,one which did not include birth defects,and one that did not allow illnesses, or even death.
If being white is a mutation,then God did not create it.imo satan messed up the human genome,via whatever interacton he had with eve.

eta: http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...hite-baby.html

this baby is not albino,

;what I haven't seen though,is white parents giving birth to a black baby.

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