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Old 06-21-2010, 03:33 PM
 
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To be Christian, you have to believe that Jesus is your savior.

That's all. You don't even have to believe in God or any traditions or anything.

Now, belonging to an ACTUAL church is more complicated....
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Old 06-21-2010, 03:51 PM
 
Location: Nashville, TN
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To be Christian, you have to believe that Jesus is your savior.

That's all. You don't even have to believe in God or any traditions or anything.

Now, belonging to an ACTUAL church is more complicated....
I completely disagree with you. You can be a Christian and not believe in God? What?! I've never heard anyone say this before.
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Old 06-21-2010, 03:54 PM
 
Location: Nashville, TN
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The reason so many "Christians" disagree with each other is because many people call themselves "Christians", but really aren't. They may have been brought up in a Christian household so they think they are Christians, but that doesn't make someone a Christian. I can't tell you how many people I've met that think they are Christians just because they went to church when they were a child or attended private Christian school. This does not make someone a Christian.

One thing Christians agree upon: On earth we will never agree with each other 100%.

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Old 06-21-2010, 04:07 PM
 
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No, you don't actually have to be a Christian to believe in Jesus, but your post asked the question concerning Christians.


Belief in Jesus is the common bond. Whether ET oe UR. Many Christians may not like that I believe Jesus will save all mankind, but that is their problem, they cannot escape the fact that I believe in Jesus.

If you believe in Jesus you can call yourself whatever you like, but your OP is not about you and what you believe, you asked this of Christians.

Do do you disagree that belief in Jesus is a common thread among Christians?
So ALL christians believe in Jesus but is it what they believe about Jesus that separates that christian from the non-christian? Could that be a simplified answer to my question?
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Old 06-21-2010, 04:08 PM
 
Location: New Zealand
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To be Christian, you have to believe that Jesus is your savior.

That's all. You don't even have to believe in God or any traditions or anything.

Now, belonging to an ACTUAL church is more complicated....
That goes against scripture
Rom 10:9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
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Old 06-21-2010, 04:15 PM
 
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So, does one have to love the lord christ jesus to be a christian? I know that this is a very rare situation but I did meet someone once on-line who claimed to be a christian because he believed in god but hated him.

Yes, he believed that he was going to Hell to (although didn't specify what he believed Hell was) but the fact is he didn't love the lord, but still called himself a christian.
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Sorry, I was a little vague.

I was responding to a post that referred to the belief in Jesus is a common denominator in christianity. I meant to point out that I also believe there was someone named Jesus, and that he was a great moral man but I don't have to be a christian to believe in him
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That would unify this forum.

But something else has been bothering me: for so many believers to "congregate" here, there is virtually no praise for our Savior.

I'm sure it grieves the Lord to see so much fighting among family members, without ministry.
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No, you don't actually have to be a Christian to believe in Jesus, but your post asked the question concerning Christians.


Belief in Jesus is the common bond. Whether ET oe UR. Many Christians may not like that I believe Jesus will save all mankind, but that is their problem, they cannot escape the fact that I believe in Jesus.

If you believe in Jesus you can call yourself whatever you like, but your OP is not about you and what you believe, you asked this of Christians.

Do do you disagree that belief in Jesus is a common thread among Christians?
A "TRUE CHRISTIAN" is he/she who follows and believes THE CHRIST DIED ON THE CROSS FOR THE SIN OF MANKIND...prophesied thousands of years ago by the prophets of GOD.

Psalm 22, Psalm 69, Isaiah 53...and many more!
Isaiah 53:5-6...He was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed.

All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the LORD hath laid on him the iniquity of us ALL.

James 2:19 Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble.

Blessings...
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Old 06-21-2010, 04:54 PM
 
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A "TRUE CHRISTIAN" is he/she who follows and believes THE CHRIST DIED ON THE CROSS FOR THE SIN OF MANKIND...prophesied thousands of years ago by the prophets of GOD.

Psalm 22, Psalm 69, Isaiah 53...and many more!
Isaiah 53:5-6...He was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed.

All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the LORD hath laid on him the iniquity of us ALL.

James 2:19 Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble.

Blessings...

That is a nice speech, but the OP was not about a debate on who is a true Christian (something that is not up to you to decide) the OP asked what Christians can agree upon.


I believe in Jesus, you believe in Jesus. Whether you like it or not, we agree upon believing in Jesus.


Many people agree upon things they do not like to agree upon. No one said you have to like what I say, but you can be tormented over the fact that we both and an atheist agree upon belief in Jesus whether you are strong enough to admit it or not.
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Old 06-21-2010, 05:03 PM
 
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So ALL christians believe in Jesus but is it what they believe about Jesus that separates that christian from the non-christian? Could that be a simplified answer to my question?
We can find disagreement in any group of people you would like to bring up. Your question is a good question.

We can pick apart my answer of "Jesus" if you like, but I would suggest starting another thread.


Philippians says to rejoice that Christ is preached and that Christ is preached many different ways and the passage implies that some of those ways are not that agreeable.

A Christian, by the very nature that they accept the label, agrees universally that Jesus is a factor.

What two christians may disagree upon concerning the nature of Jesus is an issue for another thread. You asked what all Christians can agree upon and Jesus is my answer.
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Old 06-21-2010, 05:22 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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I hope there is one thing we can all agree on;

None of us are, or will ever be, God.


(I still think Bacon is good though)
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Old 06-21-2010, 05:28 PM
 
Location: New Zealand
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I hope there is one thing we can all agree on;

None of us are, or will ever be, God.


(I still think Bacon is good though)
Now you got me wanting bacon
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