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Old 06-30-2010, 12:48 AM
 
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Thanks, that looks great!

I do agree that people would still misuse it. It just seems that many Christians don't read much beyond a few verses that back up their beleifs.
I agree and Paul, especially, made a lot of really long sentences, and many people only quote fragments of them. I'm sure I've done this myself.
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Old 06-30-2010, 09:26 AM
 
Location: South Jordan, Utah
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I think it is useful to break scripture into verses, because to me it is not a "normal" book.
I personally see the Bible as spiritual text, not as simply "stories" and "letters." That's why I don't agree with many fundamentalists, who read it so "literally."

Just my 2c!

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I do understand your point but I find the fundamentalists tend to take out a few verses and spin them completely out of context. They take the wrong meaning literally, that is even more scary! :-)
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Old 06-30-2010, 09:59 AM
 
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I wouldn't like a Bible like that because I like to memorize scripture and if there aren't verses it would be hard to look up a passage quickly.
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Old 06-30-2010, 10:04 AM
 
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I wouldn't like a Bible like that because I like to memorize scripture and if there aren't verses it would be hard to look up a passage quickly.
That is what chapters are for. :-)

That is kinda my point, memorizing a verse or two can be way out of context. Memorize the theme not just a few verses.
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Old 06-30-2010, 11:32 AM
 
Location: Seward, Alaska
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Thanks, that looks great!

I do agree that people would still misuse it. It just seems that many Christians don't read much beyond a few verses that back up their beleifs.

I agree with meerkat. So many will have a certain belief "cast in concrete", and will seach the Bible cover to cover until they find something to back up their particular doctrine...or at least what they claim backs it up. And any Bible verses that contradict their theory are ignored, watered down, twisted around, mis-translated, or skimmed over.


Bud
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Old 06-30-2010, 12:51 PM
 
Location: South Jordan, Utah
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I agree with meerkat. So many will have a certain belief "cast in concrete", and will seach the Bible cover to cover until they find something to back up their particular doctrine...or at least what they claim backs it up. And any Bible verses that contradict their theory are ignored, watered down, twisted around, mis-translated, or skimmed over.


Bud
HI Bud,

I agree, the cat is out of the bag. I just think had verses never been invented church and bible study would be more like it was, reading a whole letter for example, not scattered verses.
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Old 06-30-2010, 01:01 PM
 
Location: Nashville, TN
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That is what chapters are for. :-)

That is kinda my point, memorizing a verse or two can be way out of context. Memorize the theme not just a few verses.
Yes, I do agree that taking a verse out of context isn't good, but we shouldn't stop memorizing scripture altogether because when it is in context, it's a good thing! Jesus quoted scripture and so should we.
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Old 06-30-2010, 01:15 PM
 
Location: Copiague, NY
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The Bible is more than the Chapters and verses.

How much simpler can it be than to follow the simple truth (or commandment) given to the first Christians: "Love thy neighbor"? Organized religious institutions are a reflection of those who sought power from the earliest days and used the Godhead as it's mechanism. They have seen a God of punishment, retribution and damnation, more so than a loving God, because it serves their purpose to a fuller degree, we tend to obey, out of fear, rather than to serve God out of love. As to verses, chapters and numbers, it is the best way to provide reference and indexing to the "inspired" writings, so that those who expound upon the book, have a way to identify their respective theologies, their bible quotes and contradict one another. More important a question than to ponder the established system of scriptural reference is to determine (for oneself) whether they consider the book to truly be, the inspired writings of God Himself and not a product of those who seek to confuse us by developing mystical theology by twisting the scriptures to suit their own ends. Our God gave us the greatest gift in addition to our lifeblood, He gave us the gift of free will over our spirit and many believe that He gave us salvation from sin through our Lord and master, Jesus Christ but each of us must use that free will, to serve Him in a pleasing way.
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Old 06-30-2010, 06:19 PM
 
Location: New England
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I think it is useful to break scripture into verses, because to me it is not a "normal" book.
I personally see the Bible as spiritual text, not as simply "stories" and "letters." That's why I don't agree with many fundamentalists, who read it so "literally."

Just my 2c!

Blessings,
brian
I agree and Jesus and the writers of the epistles quoted what we consider a verse various times.
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Old 07-01-2010, 10:41 AM
 
Location: South Jordan, Utah
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I agree and Jesus and the writers of the epistles quoted what we consider a verse various times.
Various times is fine but when your whole message is just random verses, that is a problem.
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