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Old 06-29-2010, 10:20 PM
 
Location: South Jordan, Utah
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I think one of the biggest problems in understanding the bible is the fact that we have numbered verses. I see so many people post a verse or two to back up their beliefs, when the verse is just part of an over all letter.

I think it would help to read the bible without numbered verses, are there any available?
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Old 06-29-2010, 10:24 PM
 
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[quote=hilgi;14836614]I think one of the biggest problems in understanding the bible is the fact that we have numbered verses. I see so many people post a verse or two to back up their beliefs, when the verse is just part of an over all letter.

I think it would help to read the bible without numbered verses, are there any available?[/quote]

...and how would that make any difference pre tell...?...His Words are still the same...yesterday, today and forever.
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Old 06-29-2010, 10:38 PM
 
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...and how would that make any difference pre tell...?...His Words are still the same...yesterday, today and forever.
A few words lumped together and taken out of context in order to make a point is not the same as reading the whole story of the salvation plan.

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Old 06-29-2010, 10:46 PM
 
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A few words lumped together and taken out of context in order to make a point is not the same as reading the whole story of the salvation plan.
What I think is that even if there were no verse numbers, people would still misinterpret and take things out of context....... it is not the fault of the verse numbers ......

However I saw this that you might be interested in
The Books of The Bible | About (http://thebooksofthebible.info/about.php - broken link)

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Old 06-29-2010, 10:52 PM
 
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A good observation, when one grasps the point you are making.
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Old 06-29-2010, 10:53 PM
 
Location: South Jordan, Utah
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What I think is that even if there were no verse numbers, people would still misinterpret and take things out of context....... it is not the fault of the verse numbers ......

However I saw this that you might be interested in
The Books of The Bible | About (http://thebooksofthebible.info/about.php - broken link)
Thanks, that looks great!

I do agree that people would still misuse it. It just seems that many Christians don't read much beyond a few verses that back up their beleifs.
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Old 06-29-2010, 10:58 PM
 
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I think one of the biggest problems in understanding the bible is the fact that we have numbered verses. I see so many people post a verse or two to back up their beliefs, when the verse is just part of an over all letter.

I think it would help to read the bible without numbered verses, are there any available?
The first link below looks like a really good book on this subject, based on the reviews at Amazon, and I just recently picked up "Pagan Christianity" at the library, which also speaks a little bit about how our Bibles confuse the message inside a bit because of the way it is arranged.

Amazon.com: The Untold Story of the New Testament Church: An Extraordinary Guide to Understanding the New Testament (9780768422368): Frank Viola: Books



Amazon.com: Pagan Christianity?: Exploring the Roots of Our Church Practices (9781414314853): Frank Viola, George Barna: Books
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Old 06-29-2010, 11:05 PM
 
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The first link below looks like a really good book on this subject, based on the reviews at Amazon, and I just recently picked up "Pagan Christianity" at the library, which also speaks a little bit about how our Bibles confuse the message inside a bit because of the way it is arranged.

Amazon.com: The Untold Story of the New Testament Church: An Extraordinary Guide to Understanding the New Testament (9780768422368): Frank Viola: Books



Amazon.com: Pagan Christianity?: Exploring the Roots of Our Church Practices (9781414314853): Frank Viola, George Barna: Books
Very interesting, I do enjoy reading about how things got this way. Thanks for the tips!
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Old 06-29-2010, 11:12 PM
 
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Have edited that post verna
Thanks.......I deleted my two as well.
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Old 06-30-2010, 12:42 AM
 
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I think it is useful to break scripture into verses, because to me it is not a "normal" book.
I personally see the Bible as spiritual text, not as simply "stories" and "letters." That's why I don't agree with many fundamentalists, who read it so "literally."

Just my 2c!

Blessings,
brian
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