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Old 07-03-2010, 03:23 PM
 
Location: Cleveland, Ohio
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Have you seen the movie "Hunchback of Notredame"? My grandkids grew up watching this movie (both the animated and the one with Antony Hopkins)

Anyway...for some reason this thread reminds me of that movie...

LOL. Since I don't really remember if I have or not (maybe the animated one MANY years ago) I don't have a clue where you are going with this, but you made me chuckle. I can't think of a single link between the Hunchback of Notre Dame and the doctrine's of demons.
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Old 07-03-2010, 03:27 PM
 
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LOL. Since I don't really remember if I have or not (maybe the animated one MANY years ago) I don't have a clue where you are going with this, but you made me chuckle. I can't think of a single link between the Hunchback of Notre Dame and the doctrine's of demons.
Go figure...or go fish?
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Old 07-03-2010, 03:28 PM
 
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God was accused of (or credited with depending on your view) a lot of things by our ignorant primitive savage ancestors . . . there is little point in arguing with an OT believer in fables (You know the ones prophesied about in the "latter days" . . . which as far as they were concerned referred to the last 2000+ years!)
The scriptures were ALL INSPIRED . . . BUT NOT DICTATED . . . so they had to be interpreted within the culture and knowledge that existed at the time (which from our vantage point was utter primitive ignorance). The only exemplars of Rulers were HUMAN . . with all our atrocious human ego weaknesses and desires. The concept of agape love was virtually non-existent until Jesus . . . which is why He stood out so brightly among the savages. When the epitome of wisdom in a King is found in His command to cut a baby in two to solve a dispute between two women claiming to be the mother . . . and he is believed!!! . . . we are not talking about reliable interpreters with modern sensibilities by any stretch.
i'd say our ancestors were very technologically advanced...
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Old 07-03-2010, 03:39 PM
 
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Go figure...or go fish?
Go fish.
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Old 07-03-2010, 04:00 PM
 
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Go fish.
What did you catch..."holier than thou"?
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Old 07-03-2010, 04:13 PM
 
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What did you catch..."holier than thou"?
Is there something wrong, ans57? You can DM me if you want.
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Old 07-03-2010, 04:42 PM
 
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Is there something wrong, ans57? You can DM me if you want.
Peace...
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Old 07-03-2010, 05:59 PM
 
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Peace...
Peace to you as well.
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Old 07-05-2010, 09:16 PM
 
Location: Out of Florida........
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Warnings against False Teachings.............

1. But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction. 2. And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of. 3. And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you: whose judgment now of a long time lingereth not, and their damnation slumbereth not.

4. For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment; 5. And spared not the old world, but saved Noah the eighth person, a preacher of righteousness, bringing in the flood upon the world of the ungodly; 6. And turning the cities of Sodom and Gomorrha into ashes condemned them with an overthrow, making them an exsample unto those that after should live ungodly; 7. And delivered just Lot, vexed with the filthy conversation of the wicked: 8. (For that righteous man dwelling among them, in seeing and hearing, vexed his righteous soul from day to day with their unlawful deeds 9. The Lord knoweth how to deliver the godly out of temptations, and to reserve the unjust unto the day of judgment to be punished: 10. But chiefly them that walk after the flesh in the lust of uncleanness, and despise government. Presumptuous are they, self-willed, they are not afraid to speak evil of dignities. 11. Whereas angels, which are greater in power and might, bring not railing accusation against them before the Lord. 12. But these, as natural brute beasts, made to be taken and destroyed, speak evil of the things that they understand not; and shall utterly perish in their own corruption; 13. And shall receive the reward of unrighteousness, as they that count it pleasure to riot in the day time. Spots they are and blemishes, sporting themselves with their own deceiving while they feast with you; 14. Having eyes full of adultery, and that cannot cease from sin; beguiling unstable souls: an heart they have exercised with covetous practices; cursed children: 15. Which have forsaken the right way, and are gone astray, following the way of Balaam the son of Bosor, who loved the wages of unrighteousness; 16. But was rebuked for his iniquity: the dumb ass speaking with man's voice forbade the madness of the prophet.

17.
These are wells without water, clouds that are carried with a tempest; to whom the mist of darkness is reserved for ever. 18. For when they speak great swelling words of vanity, they allure through the lusts of the flesh, through much wantonness, those that were clean escaped from them who live in error. 19. While they promise them liberty, they themselves are the servants of corruption: for of whom a man is overcome, of the same is he brought in bondage. 20. For if after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, they are again entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning. 21. For it had been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than, after they have known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered unto them. 22. But it is happened unto them according to the true proverb, The dog is turned to his own vomit again; and the sow that was washed to her wallowing in the mire.


THUS..........saith The Lord!!!
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Old 07-05-2010, 09:29 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Warnings against False Teachings.............

1. But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction. 2. And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of. 3. And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you: whose judgment now of a long time lingereth not, and their damnation slumbereth not.

4. For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment; 5. And spared not the old world, but saved Noah the eighth person, a preacher of righteousness, bringing in the flood upon the world of the ungodly; 6. And turning the cities of Sodom and Gomorrha into ashes condemned them with an overthrow, making them an exsample unto those that after should live ungodly; 7. And delivered just Lot, vexed with the filthy conversation of the wicked: 8. (For that righteous man dwelling among them, in seeing and hearing, vexed his righteous soul from day to day with their unlawful deeds 9. The Lord knoweth how to deliver the godly out of temptations, and to reserve the unjust unto the day of judgment to be punished: 10. But chiefly them that walk after the flesh in the lust of uncleanness, and despise government. Presumptuous are they, self-willed, they are not afraid to speak evil of dignities. 11. Whereas angels, which are greater in power and might, bring not railing accusation against them before the Lord. 12. But these, as natural brute beasts, made to be taken and destroyed, speak evil of the things that they understand not; and shall utterly perish in their own corruption; 13. And shall receive the reward of unrighteousness, as they that count it pleasure to riot in the day time. Spots they are and blemishes, sporting themselves with their own deceiving while they feast with you; 14. Having eyes full of adultery, and that cannot cease from sin; beguiling unstable souls: an heart they have exercised with covetous practices; cursed children: 15. Which have forsaken the right way, and are gone astray, following the way of Balaam the son of Bosor, who loved the wages of unrighteousness; 16. But was rebuked for his iniquity: the dumb ass speaking with man's voice forbade the madness of the prophet.

17. These are wells without water, clouds that are carried with a tempest; to whom the mist of darkness is reserved for ever. 18. For when they speak great swelling words of vanity, they allure through the lusts of the flesh, through much wantonness, those that were clean escaped from them who live in error. 19. While they promise them liberty, they themselves are the servants of corruption: for of whom a man is overcome, of the same is he brought in bondage. 20. For if after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, they are again entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning. 21. For it had been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than, after they have known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered unto them. 22. But it is happened unto them according to the true proverb, The dog is turned to his own vomit again; and the sow that was washed to her wallowing in the mire.


THUS..........saith The Lord!!!
AWESOME WORD OF GOD!!!!!...It just flows...like a mighty river doesn't it!!!! AMEN!!!
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