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Old 09-13-2013, 11:38 PM
 
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I'd never heard of the Dimond Brothers. Thanks for all your hard work exposing them. So, and forgive me if you said, what is their agenda? I know you said they want people to attend the Eastern Orthodox Catholic Church, but is their more to it than that? Is everything they say disinformation?
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Old 09-15-2013, 10:04 AM
 
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From Wikepedia:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Most_Holy_Family_Monastery

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It was founded in 1967, in Berlin, New Jersey, by a self-proclaimed Benedictine monk named Joseph Natale (born 1933), originally as a community for handicapped men. Natale entered the Benedictine Archabbey in Latrobe, Pennsylvania, in 1960 as a lay postulant, but left less than a year later to start his own Holy Family Monastery. According to an archivist of the Saint Vincent Archabbey in Latrobe, Natale left before taking vows; he never actually became a Benedictine monk.
Throughout the late 1960s and early 1970s, Natale denounced the Second Vatican Council and the New Mass, and by the mid-1970s the community had separated from the Vatican. By mid-1980s, there were ten monks in it, but by 1994 the number declined to three. Shortly after a conference in 1994, John Vennari left to work for Fr. Nicholas Gruner.
Natale died in 1995, whereupon Michael Dimond (born Frederick Dimond), who joined in 1992 at the age of 19 after converting to Catholism four years earlier, was elected the Superior. Soon after, he relocated to Granger, New York (close to Fillmore, New York), where Natale owned more than 90 acres (36 ha) of donated land.
Fred and Robert (real names) are not monks and are frauds.l
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Old 11-14-2015, 06:55 AM
 
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Old 11-14-2015, 08:56 AM
 
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Alternately, interested readers can examine Bellafinzi's claims to see if these are supported by the facts, not just the party line.

While I don’t agree with the Diamond brothers, careful readers here will recognize that Bellafinzi’s posts are assertions without evidence. Unless he thinks his opinion is proof.

As such, Bellafinzi’s posts are best ignored until he presents evidence to support his claims.

Bellafinzi who says he is a moderator posted this ex cathedra (infallible?) teaching of the Church.

Pope Eugene IV, Council of Florence, Sess. 8, Nov. 22, 1439, ex cathedra: "Whoever wishes to be saved, needs above all to hold the Catholic Faith; unless each one preserves this whole and inviolate, he will without a doubt perish in eternity.

Perhaps Bellafinzi doesn’t realize that this former infallible therefore unchangeable teaching was itself dropped by the Catholic Church in 1965. Now the Catholic Church no longer teaches that there are only Catholics in heaven.

DOGMATIC CONSTITUTION ON THE CHURCH LUMEN GENTIUM
SOLEMNLY PROMULGATED BY HIS HOLINESS POPE PAUL VI
ON NOVEMBER 21, 1964

“16…Nor does Divine Providence deny the helps necessary for salvation to those who, without blame on their part, have not yet arrived at an explicit knowledge of God and with His grace strive to live a good life….”

Last edited by Aristotle's Child; 11-14-2015 at 08:58 AM.. Reason: typo
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