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Old 07-05-2010, 11:38 PM
 
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And the LAW of Moses says, "and eye for an eye...and tooth for a tooth", but Jesus said, "verily, verily, I say unto you, if a brother hit you on the left cheek, give him your right cheek as well". Let's set a good example folks that we indeed abide by his LOVE and emulate the way our CHRIST lived and taught. He did not, does not, and will not subscribe to "burn in hell" doctrine!...AMEN and AMEN! There...

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Old 07-05-2010, 11:40 PM
 
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Old 07-06-2010, 12:12 AM
 
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Old 07-06-2010, 01:56 AM
 
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And the LAW of Moses says, "and eye for an eye...and tooth for a tooth", but Jesus said, "verily, verily, I say unto you, if a brother hit you on the left cheek, give him your right cheek as well". Let's set a good example folks that we indeed abide by his LOVE and emulate the way our CHRIST lived and taught. He did not, does not, and will not subscribe to "burn in hell" doctrine!...AMEN and AMEN! There...
This Law was given to regulate the procedure of the public magistrate of judges and priests in determining the amount of compensation in every case of injury, but did not encourage feelings of private revenge. The later Jews, however, mistook it for a moral precept, and they abused it, and were corrected by our Lord in Mat 5:38-42 The term eye for an eye was not about retribution, but about mercy. Hence, Christ absorbed the law...He did say...He fulfilled it, and did not destroy it, so leave your counter attacks in the pages of the scripture for correction, as they are again...this second. Your hermeneutics are flawed....a perfect example of cherry picking...once again.

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Old 07-06-2010, 02:27 AM
 
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This Law was given to regulate the procedure of the public magistrate of judges and priests in determining the amount of compensation in every case of injury, but did not encourage feelings of private revenge. The later Jews, however, mistook it for a moral precept, and they abused it, and were corrected by our Lord in Mat 5:38-42 The term eye for an eye was not about retribution, but about mercy. Hence, Christ absorbed the law...He did say...He fulfilled it, and did not destroy it, so leave your counter attacks in the pages of the scripture for correction, as they are again...this second. Your hermeneutics are flawed....a perfect example of cherry picking...once again.

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Eye for an eye justice is about mercy? Sciotamicks your wily antics never cease to amaze me ...
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Old 07-06-2010, 02:31 AM
 
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This Law was given to regulate the procedure of the public magistrate of judges and priests in determining the amount of compensation in every case of injury, but did not encourage feelings of private revenge. The later Jews, however, mistook it for a moral precept, and they abused it, and were corrected by our Lord in Mat 5:38-42 The term eye for an eye was not about retribution, but about mercy. Hence, Christ absorbed the law...He did say...He fulfilled it, and did not destroy it, so leave your counter attacks in the pages of the scripture for correction, as they are again...this second. Your hermeneutics are flawed....a perfect example of cherry picking...once again.

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...??????

So "Father forgive them for they know not what they do" is a moot expression too unless of course...properly explained by you too...
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Old 07-06-2010, 04:12 AM
 
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The term eye for an eye was not about retribution, but about mercy. Hence, Christ absorbed the law...He did say...He fulfilled it, and did not destroy it, so leave your counter attacks in the pages of the scripture for correction, as they are again...this second. Your hermeneutics are flawed....a perfect example of cherry picking...once again.

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No doubt an eye for an eye was abused.

Yet in saying:

"You have heard that it has been said,"'An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth': But I say to you, That you resist not evil: whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also".

It Jesus not saying this ISN'T His Father's words?

Show me where Jesus fulfilled this law and returned evil for evil in like kind.
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Old 07-06-2010, 04:22 AM
 
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The term eye for an eye was not about retribution, but about mercy.
So capital punishment is "merciful????" Wow, not even the fundamentalist groups I attended had such twisted doctrines!!
So what is NOT merciful? Forgiving??

The thing that amazes me more and more here on this forum, is that it's not necessary to talk about "spiritual" things in order for things to get twisted around. No. Even earthly things have no real truth to them. Even white is black!!
If you say you love someone, they say that you hate! If you hate someone, they say that it's love!! If you say you're hungry, they say you're full. If you say you're thirsty, they'll say it's not true. If you're hot, they'll say you're cold.
At this point, nothing anybody says has any value. Fundamentalist doctrine is very good at making anything anybody else says of no value whatsoever. Only what they say has value.
Oh, how well I know how this serpent beguiles! Nothing is real, nothing is true. Everything is to doubt, nothing can be learned.

Evil, evil, evil on these threads. Doctrines of devils. (They will say that UR is evil, but they have still not said how this can be true.) But I know that ET was an evil doctrine to my heart personally, because it taught me to condemn and despise others when I believed in it. Now I am no longer condemning people. The only thing I condemn is their doctrine of condemnation.

I believe that if we listen to what's in our hearts, we will know the Truth. Even if others tell you that you are wrong, or that you are going to hell.

Lord, have mercy on us all!!

Peace,
brian
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Old 07-06-2010, 04:20 PM
 
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Fundamentalist doctrine is very good at making anything anybody else says of no value whatsoever. Only what they say has value.
Oh, how well I know how this serpent beguiles! Nothing is real, nothing is true. Everything is to doubt, nothing can be learned.
That's right. It says that (in God's terms) to "love" someone doesn't mean that you care what happens to them. It means you expect them to live up to your expectations or pay the price.

And then it labels this "love" as "Good News".
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Old 07-06-2010, 04:34 PM
 
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Show me where Jesus fulfilled this law
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I have not come destroy the law and the prophets, but to fulfill.

Christ even fufilled the eye for an eye law, as He absorbed it into Him, so that mercy would be decreed to the one who is victimized.

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returned evil for death.(Added mine)
And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.
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