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Old 07-07-2010, 01:00 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Do you ever go to restaurants, Wal-Mart, gas station, grocery store, etc. on these days? If so, don't you feel you are enabling someone to sin? Do you clean your kitchen or anything during that time? Just curious.
Perhaps they cut off a hand before going out? And what about Saturday funerals and weddings -- those are common.
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Old 07-07-2010, 01:01 PM
 
Location: Seattle, Washington
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YES!!! Friday sundown to Saturday sundown!!

GOD BLESS!!!
DALE
"If thou turn away thy foot because of the sabbath, from pursuing thy business on My holy day; and call the sabbath a delight, and the holy of the LORD honourable; and shalt honour it, not doing thy wonted ways, nor pursuing thy business, nor speaking thereof; Then shalt thou delight thyself in the LORD, and I will make thee to ride upon the high places of the earth, and I will feed thee with the heritage of Jacob thy father; for the mouth of the LORD hath spoken it." Isaiah 58:13,14

So from Friday sundown to Saturday sundown what do you do or not do that keeps the sabbath holy?

I am curious because if you post on here.... that is breaking the sabbath, if you go shopping or make dinner... you break the sabbath..

If you go to church you are breaking the sabbath because the pastor is working... so what exactly DO YOU DO to keep the sabbath holy?

(I find it suspect when anyone calls upon the OT to dictate feast days and other PRIMITIVE rituals)
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Old 07-07-2010, 01:04 PM
 
Location: Florida
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A very good friend of mine is an orthodox jew.

His sabbath begins at sun down on friday and ends sundown on saturday.

I'm just curious. For those who rigorously observe the sabbath on saturday, when does your sabbath begin and end?

Does your worship begin friday evening, does it end saturday evening etc...?
Yes, I keep the Sabbath holy as commanded by God.

Sunday Sabbath...man's sabbath...was commanded by the Pope...the Roman [Catholic] Church.

The Sabbath = Saturday, the seventh day of the week, it begins Friday evening, sundown, and ends Saturday evening , at sundown.

A day of the week isn't determined by when we wake up in the morning, according to the Jewish faith...a day begins at sundown on one day, and ends at sundown the next day....sundown to sundown.


Oakback, please go to the thread by sciota, titled:

The Feast of Days, Unleavened Bread, and Eternal life

I explain, in detail...and I prove, through Scripture the FACTS...the meaning of the Sabbath vs Sunday.

God Bless,
Verna.
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Old 07-07-2010, 01:07 PM
 
Location: Rapid City, SD
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Everything, he saved us from the yoke of the law.

5."But there rose up certain of the sect of the pharisees which believed, saying, That it was needful to circumcise them, and to command them to keep THE LAW OF MOSES. 6. And the apostles and elders came together for to consider this matter. 7. And when there had been much disputing, Peter rose up, and said unto them, Men and brethren, ye know how that a good while ago God made choice among us, that the Gentiles by my mouth should hear the word of the gospel, and believe. 8. And God, which knoweth the hearts, bare them witness, giving them the Holy Ghost, even as he did unto us; 9. And put no difference between us and them, purifying their hearts by faith. 10. Now therefore why tempt ye God, to put a YOKE UPON THE NECK OF THE DISCIPLES , which neither our fathers nor we were able to bear."

(ACTS 15:5-10)

The yoke is obviously the book of the law of Moses, not the ten commandments that were written with the very finger of God!!!!!



GOD BLESS!!!
DALE
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Old 07-07-2010, 01:12 PM
 
Location: Seattle, Washington
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Perhaps they cut off a hand before going out? And what about Saturday funerals and weddings -- those are common.
Most sabbath keepers actually go to church but then if the Pastor derives income from the service... isn't he breaking the sabbath?

Also... what about when your home is on fire... do you try to spare the firemen from having to break the sabbath so you let your house burn down? What about a robbery on the sabbath... do you just sit there?

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Old 07-07-2010, 01:16 PM
 
Location: Rapid City, SD
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Idiocracy prevails!!!
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Old 07-07-2010, 01:20 PM
 
Location: Seattle, Washington
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5."But there rose up certain of the sect of the pharisees which believed, saying, That it was needful to circumcise them, and to command them to keep THE LAW OF MOSES. 6. And the apostles and elders came together for to consider this matter. 7. And when there had been much disputing, Peter rose up, and said unto them, Men and brethren, ye know how that a good while ago God made choice among us, that the Gentiles by my mouth should hear the word of the gospel, and believe. 8. And God, which knoweth the hearts, bare them witness, giving them the Holy Ghost, even as he did unto us; 9. And put no difference between us and them, purifying their hearts by faith. 10. Now therefore why tempt ye God, to put a YOKE UPON THE NECK OF THE DISCIPLES , which neither our fathers nor we were able to bear."

(ACTS 15:5-10)

The yoke is obviously the book of the law of Moses, not the ten commandments that were written with the very finger of God!!!!!



GOD BLESS!!!
DALE
Paul (a Jew) said, "I MYSELF AM NOT UNDER THE LAW" (1 Cor. 9:20).

"ALL WHO RELY ON OBSERVING THE LAW ARE UNDER A CURSE" (Gal. 3:10).

"CHRIST REDEEMED US FROM THE CURSE OF THE LAW" (Gal. 3:13).

"NOW THAT FAITH HAS COME, WE ARE NO LONGER UNDER THE SUPERVISION OF THE LAW" (Gal. 3:25).

"YOU HAVE BEEN SEVERED FROM CHRIST, YOU WHO ARE SEEKING TO BE JUSTIFIED BY LAW; YOU HAVE FALLEN FROM GRACE" (Gal. 5:4).


"IF YOU ARE LED BY THE SPIRIT YOU ARE NOT UNDER THE LAW" (Gal. 5:18).


"WHATEVER THE LAW SAYS, IT SPEAKS TO THOSE WHO ARE UNDER THE LAW " (Rom. 3:19).

"THOSE WHO ARE CIRCUMCISED [JEWS] DO NOT EVEN KEEP THE LAW THEMSELVES" (Gal. 6:11).

"IF RIGHTEOUSNESS COULD BE GAINED THROUGH [KEEPING] THE LAW, CHRIST DIED FOR NOTHING!" (Gal. 2:21).

"NO ONE WILL BE DECLARED RIGHTEOUS IN HIS [GOD'S] SIGHT BY OBSERVING THE LAW" (Rom. 3:20).

"SIN SHALL NOT BE YOUR MASTER, BECAUSE YOU ARE NOT UNDER LAW, BUT UNDER GRACE" (Rom. 6:14).


You say that it is only the Law of Moses but the verse I posted before clearly addressed the ten commandments....

The commandments, "Do not commit adultery," "Do not murder," "Do not steal," "Do not covet," and whatever other commandment there may be, are summed up in this one rule: "Love your neighbor as yourself."
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Old 07-07-2010, 01:21 PM
 
Location: Rapid City, SD
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If someone does not know what the sabbath is about, they will never understand what can and cannot be done on the sabbath, so no use trying to teach ignorance!!!


DALE
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Old 07-07-2010, 01:24 PM
 
Location: Seattle, Washington
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Idiocracy prevails!!!
Do you attend church on the sabbath?
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Old 07-07-2010, 01:26 PM
 
Location: Rapid City, SD
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Do you attend church on the sabbath?
I do not attend church!!

DALE
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