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Old 07-08-2010, 12:00 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Is this it:
Mark 9:24 Immediately the boy's father exclaimed, "I do believe; help me overcome my unbelief!"

It is strange that he says he believes and then asks for help with unbelief.

Weymouth New Testament
Immediately the father cried out, "I do believe: strengthen my weak faith."

Also the disciples were called by Jesus "ye of little faith"... Hopefully THEY were saved!
Thanks, Katjonjjj. Yep that's the one. This is one of those scriptures that seem particularly sweet to me in the King James version (not that I prefer it always)... And straightway the father of the child cried out, and said with tears, Lord, I believe; help thou mine unbelief. It is one of those astonishing scriptures that makes you really think about faith and mercy and how weak we all can be in faith.
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Old 07-08-2010, 12:07 PM
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Thanks, Katjonjjj. Yep that's the one. This is one of those scriptures that seem particularly sweet to me in the King James version (not that I prefer it always)... And straightway the father of the child cried out, and said with tears, Lord, I believe; help thou mine unbelief. It is one of those astonishing scriptures that makes you really think about faith and mercy and how weak we all can be in faith.
Yeah, I lean on that one a lot!
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Old 07-08-2010, 12:14 PM
 
Location: Seattle, Washington
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Thanks, Katjonjjj. Yep that's the one. This is one of those scriptures that seem particularly sweet to me in the King James version (not that I prefer it always)... And straightway the father of the child cried out, and said with tears, Lord, I believe; help thou mine unbelief. It is one of those astonishing scriptures that makes you really think about faith and mercy and how weak we all can be in faith.
Another scripture that stumps bible scholars:

Mark 10:21 Jesus looked at him and loved him. "One thing you lack," he said. "Go, sell everything you have and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me."

Interesting that Jesus loved him while telling him that he should give his riches to the poor and follow him... a requirement not made of other rich men...
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Old 07-08-2010, 01:16 PM
 
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IMO certain atheist's opinion about the nature of God is like a five year old's understanding of what his parents do in the privacy of their bedroom.


(not aimed at June)
I'm sure you can guess my opinion of adults defending the nature of god, and his works, i.e., global floods, and other absurdities defended here

Unlike in the 5 year old's parents bedroom door, there is nothing behind the deity's imaginary door.
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Old 07-08-2010, 01:56 PM
 
Location: Italy
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Thanks, Katjonjjj. Yep that's the one. This is one of those scriptures that seem particularly sweet to me in the King James version (not that I prefer it always)... And straightway the father of the child cried out, and said with tears, Lord, I believe; help thou mine unbelief. It is one of those astonishing scriptures that makes you really think about faith and mercy and how weak we all can be in faith.
Amen to you, too, Heartsong!

Keep up the encouragements!

blessings,
brian
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Old 07-08-2010, 05:33 PM
 
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Unlike in the 5 year old's parents bedroom door, there is nothing behind the deity's imaginary door.
It would be helpful if you had a basis (even in subjective experience) for this certainty . . . but I am confident you do not. In that sense the theists (NOT your favorite religious foils) frequently are in a superior position . . . having such subjective experiential basis for their certainty.
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Old 07-08-2010, 05:46 PM
 
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It would be helpful if you had a basis (even in subjective experience) for this certainty . . . but I am confident you do not. In that sense the theists (NOT your favorite religious foils) frequently are in a superior position . . . having such subjective experiential basis for their certainty.
It's almost laughable, every clique (simply for lack of a better term, at least at this point after a good dinner and a couple glasses of wine ) has their own god/deity, and even paying attention to the different sub cliques of what is commonly refereed to as christian seem to have huge variances.

My basis, you challenge, is the complete and utter lack of evidence of the existence of any of the multitude of deities that believers of every ilk seem to believe exist.

I know that proving the negative is tricky, subject to a lot of word games, mind games, etc. but proving the positive when it sure looks like you have all the evidence for the negative is humorous, don't ya think?
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Old 07-08-2010, 07:50 PM
 
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Uh, guys?

"Three questions?" = Please stay on topic?

Okay?

"Yes June...."


Thanks!




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Old 07-08-2010, 08:06 PM
 
Location: Seattle, Washington
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Uh, guys?

"Three questions?" = Please stay on topic?

Okay?

"Yes June...."


Thanks!




*katjonjj runs from thread screaming "OKAY!"*

Okay!

You're welcome.
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Old 07-08-2010, 10:40 PM
 
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Uh, guys?

"Three questions?" = Please stay on topic?

Okay?

"Yes June...."


Thanks!




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