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Old 07-15-2010, 12:55 PM
 
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Can you say that in english not in tongues, not being smart but it sounds like jibberish.
There is only ONE Word of God Jesus Christ and He is Living and available to us as the Holy Spirit within:

1 Corinthians 2:13-16 (King James Version)

13Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.

14But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

15But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man.

16For who hath known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct him? but we have the mind of Christ.



And He abides with us:

1 John 2:27 (King James Version)

27But the anointing which ye have received of Him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in Him.


But the veil of ignorance over the OT has corrupted Jesus' message of love.

2 Corinthians 3:14-17

But their minds were blinded (blind mind = ignorance): for until this day remaineth the same vail untaken away in the reading of the old testament; which vail is done away in Christ.
15But even unto this day, when Moses is read, the vail is upon their heart.
16Nevertheless when it(the Heart) shall turn to the Lord(Jesus Christ), the vail shall be taken away.
17Now the Lord is that Spirit (Holy Spirit): and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.


That liberty exists because God has "written in our Hearts" the truth so we can recognize it.

2 Corinthians 3: 2-6 (King James Version)

2Ye are our epistle written in our hearts, known and read of all men:

3Forasmuch as ye are manifestly declared to be the epistle of Christ ministered by us, written not with ink, but with the Spirit of the living God; not in tables of stone, but in fleshy tables of the heart.

4And such trust have we through Christ to God-ward:

5Not that we are sufficient of ourselves to think any thing as of ourselves; but our sufficiency is of God;

6Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life.

Does that make it any clearer?
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Old 08-24-2010, 03:58 PM
 
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Why not just pay attention to how great the Grace of God is and thank him for sending Jesus to die for us? Trying to predict the end times doesn't seem like what God would want us to do.
You have a good point but I'm thinking what grace? What that he forgives us for our sins, being born, on the condition that we believe he's who the bible says he is? Is that the grace? it doesn't sound like grace to me.
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Old 08-24-2010, 04:28 PM
 
Location: South Jordan, Utah
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You have a good point but I'm thinking what grace? What that he forgives us for our sins, being born, on the condition that we believe he's who the bible says he is? Is that the grace? it doesn't sound like grace to me.
Grace and faith both come from God.
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Old 08-26-2010, 03:34 PM
 
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firstborn888 I am a little curious as to which "end time" you are referring to? There are, I think, different points of views, beliefs. I think you mean the parts about the world possibly ending or is it the signs that it is near. If not I'd like to know which parts you are questioning.
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Old 08-26-2010, 03:43 PM
 
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Grace and faith both come from God.
But what is grace?
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Old 08-26-2010, 08:08 PM
 
Location: South Jordan, Utah
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But what is grace?

An unmerrited free gift of salvation.
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Old 08-27-2010, 05:12 AM
 
Location: Texas
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firstborn888 I am a little curious as to which "end time" you are referring to? There are, I think, different points of views, beliefs. I think you mean the parts about the world possibly ending or is it the signs that it is near. If not I'd like to know which parts you are questioning.
Basically I am addressing the "rapture ready" crowd.
You can review their beliefs here: Rapture Ready - Rapture resource for the end times

A lot of threads came up insisting that earthquakes are on the rise (the statistics show they are not) and that the current solar cycle is actually the start of historically unprecedented solar activity which will result in the burning up of the earth.

You know, the "I'll fly away and then all hell will break loose" with literal stars of the heavens falling to earth etc.
(AKA: The destruction of the earth).
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Old 08-27-2010, 11:31 PM
 
Location: Out of Florida........
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Still doubting Thomas......that it won't be as He said it would?
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Old 08-28-2010, 04:25 AM
 
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Still doubting Thomas......that it won't be as He said it would?
No - doubting that it is now as you say it is.
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Old 08-28-2010, 11:33 AM
 
Location: Out of Florida........
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No - doubting that it is now as you say it is.
Not me firstborn888, not me.
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