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Old 07-12-2010, 08:28 PM
 
Location: Cleveland, Ohio
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Isaiah 49:1-26 "The Messiah's Mission"
9 That thou mayest say to the prisoners, Go forth; to them that are in darkness, Shew yourselves. They shall feed in the ways, and their pastures shall be in all high places
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Blessings...
Thanks for the verse, ans57. Freedom is what it's supposed to be about. Freedom from fear. Freedom from huge burdens that no one can carry.

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I Believe Luther could only walk in the light he had , i believe through the ages since Luther's day God has been restoring back the light that almost dimmed out in the dark ages .
I also believe the light of Universal Reconcilation is glowing now and many are being drawn to it .
I think we need to be careful though in thinking the light of the truth regarding UR is all that is left of the light of the gospel to be restored , this is how denominations are formed by building around present truth restored back to the church , just like what happened to Luther's message , Wesley's message and the Pentecostal message.

I'm grateful to God that He opened my heart to receive the truth about UR , i pray that He will continue to grant me an open heart to the light of His glorious gospel and the unsearchable riches of Christ.
Yes, pcamps. I am glad UR is not a denomination. Nobody is wrapping it up in a big bow and saying they have it all figured out. We still all have the freedom to study and to listen to the Spirit.
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Old 07-12-2010, 08:34 PM
 
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What happened ?Emperor Constantine happened.
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Old 07-12-2010, 08:36 PM
 
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Here's an interesting read about the descension of Christianity from a joyous rebirth of mankind to a religion focused on death and torment:
Saving Paradise » About the Book
Sounds like an interesting book. I'd like to read it! Thanks for the recommendation.
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Old 07-12-2010, 08:44 PM
 
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Sounds like an interesting book. I'd like to read it! Thanks for the recommendation.
I like the "About the Book" page. It talks about how in the early days of Christianity Jesus was always shown standing in FRONT of the cross and shown as the good shepherd holding a sheep, but later he is always shown dying, always on the cross.
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Old 07-12-2010, 08:47 PM
 
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What happened ?Emperor Constantine happened.
Friendly, loving, patient, meek, peaceful guy, that Constantine. I'm sure he understood the Good News.
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Old 07-12-2010, 08:47 PM
 
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The last days were most definitely filled with anti-christs.

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I John 2:18. Little children, it is the last time (2000 years ago): and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now(2000 years ago)we know that it is the last time (2000 years ago) are there many antichrists;

Hebrew 1:2. But in these last days (2000 years ago) he has spoken to us by his Son, whom he appointed the heir of all things, through whom also he created the world.

I Peter 1:20. God chose him as your ransom long before the world began, but he has now revealed him to you in these last days (2000 years ago).
I'm not following. How is this post connected to the OP? I'm entirely missing your point. Not being snarky here.
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Old 07-12-2010, 08:49 PM
 
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I Believe Luther could only walk in the light he had , i believe through the ages since Luther's day God has been restoring back the light that almost dimmed out in the dark ages .
I also believe the light of Universal Reconcilation is glowing now and many are being drawn to it .
I think we need to be careful though in thinking the light of the truth regarding UR is all that is left of the light of the gospel to be restored , this is how denominations are formed by building around present truth restored back to the church , just like what happened to Luther's message , Wesley's message and the Pentecostal message.

I'm grateful to God that He opened my heart to receive the truth about UR , i pray that He will continue to grant me an open heart to the light of His glorious gospel and the unsearchable riches of Christ.
I couldn't rep you, so I will just do it this way! Great post!
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Old 07-12-2010, 08:56 PM
 
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I'm not following. How is this post connected to the OP? I'm entirely missing your point. Not being snarky here.
It's okay.

I was just agreeing with Mystic about how the last 2000 years have been the last days. We URs are accused of bringing in a "last days" demonic doctrine, but, really, the last days were 2000 years ago. Those verses were written 2000 years ago at which time the disciples said THOSE were the last days. The RCC and empires that arose out of the pagan doctrines of old brought in many heresies, which the entire church system picked up and ran with. The fear, the power, and much of Christianity is just ancient pagan thought attached to the REALLY Good News.

The hells of the Greeks were at least somewhat better than the Protestant hells.

Why did God tell the Hebrews to stay away from pagan thought again?

I'm guessing it's because He wanted them to understand that he was nothing like the gods and goddesses that humanity worshiped; lightning bolt-throwing gods prone to fits of anger. He was trying to keep them away from superstition and fables meant to scare and intimidate the masses.

They didn't get it, so Jesus showed up telling people to LOVE their enemies. He came to tell the world that he was not holding their sins against them. He came to show that he had power over the grave and death. He came to give the world hope, but, religion reared it's ugly head. The whor* (false religion) rode the beast (politics).
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Old 07-12-2010, 09:22 PM
 
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That's a good explanation herefornow, thanks!

But if those were the last days, what are these? Maybe that is a rhetorical question...
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Old 07-12-2010, 10:33 PM
 
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This is the point I have tried to make . . . from the point of view of the early church for 500 years or so . . . UR was the original and true Gospel. To them "the false prophets of the latter days" would be the RCC and Nicenes that created the bible canon used today, and all the ET or Annihilist doctrines that have prevailed throughout the world for the past 1500+ years.
I disagree with this. Prove the early church believed this, using orginal languages and not a supposed copy from a website. I would like to read copies of the originals, and not take the word of man, for we know all men lie.

It is NOT what Jesus taught, so I would HIGHLY doubt the early church believed this, unless they were Paulites who misunderstood the letters he wrote, like Peter says. Show me early coverted Jews who believed this.
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