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Old 07-16-2010, 10:26 AM
 
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That's the entire lie of UR right there in a nutshell........it bypasses the Son, period! Very, very sad. Father forgive them, please help them to understand and come to the knowledge of Your truth, before it too late. In Jesus name we pray, amen.


 
Old 07-16-2010, 10:27 AM
 
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That's the entire lie of UR right there in a nutshell........it bypasses the Son, period! Very, very sad. Father forgive them, please help them to understand and come to the knowledge of Your truth, before it too late. In Jesus name we pray, amen.


Betsey, is confessing Jesus as Lord a Trustworthy thing to do?
 
Old 07-16-2010, 10:28 AM
 
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After all this time you still don't get it, Jesus was God in human form when He came to earth.

I am telling you what scripture shows Jesus saying, so if I do not "Get" your beliefs, that is irrelevant.
 
Old 07-16-2010, 10:29 AM
 
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You know, many sincere folks cannot comprehend the idea of a Loving God sending anyone to an eternal place of fire and doom. People don't like to hear about hell. Yet, it's the truth of God Himself.

Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat: Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it" (Matthew 7:13-14).

But I'm here to tell you that if Jesus is not your personal Savior, you are on your way to hell my friend.

He that believeth on Him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. (John 3:18)

Did you know that if you do not belong to Jesus Christ you belong to Satan? You don't have to be a card carrying Satanist to serve Satan. You don't have to be a murderer, drunkard or drug addict either. All you have to do is ignore Jesus Christ. If you don't have Jesus today, you are deceived and hell bound, though this may sound harsh, it is true friend. God loves you and wants to save you; He asks nothing in return.

For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in Him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

How many times have I heard someone say, "A loving God wouldn't put His creation in hell." I have news for you, friend; God doesn't put anyone in hell--their sin of unbelief puts them there! Hell was created for the devil and his angels.....

"Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, PREPARED FOR THE DEVIL AND HIS ANGELS. (Matthew 25:41)

Men and women go to hell because they choose the devil's way and reject the Lord Jesus Christ! God is holy and cannot allow any sin into His kingdom. As a result, when people die in their sins they are forever banished from the presence of God to a place called hell.

And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever. (Rev. 20:10)

God does not want you in hell! Jesus came to save you from that horrible place! Don't lie and say God puts people in hell! Repent, confess, believe, get right with Jesus and you won't go there!

"As I live, saith the Lord GOD, I have no pleasure in the death of the wicked; but that the wicked turn from his way and live: turn ye, turn ye from your evil ways; for why will ye die." (Ezekiel 33:11)

The Lord is...not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance." (2 Peter 3:9)

The Bible says that hell is never full. Friends, either you will repent from your unbelief by turning in faith to the Lord Jesus Christ; or you will burn in hell-fire for all eternity for your sins. No, this is not a popular teaching; but, it is Biblical. Regardless of whether you believe it or not, hell exists!

God does not want this to happen. You say, "But I don't believe in hell." Unbelievers are condemned already, "He that believeth not is condemned already..." (John 3:36). No need to argue about this. God said hell is real, your argument is with Him and you won't win. Won't you turn, before it too late?


Your sister in Christ Jesus

Betsey
Excellent post Betsey. The clear revelation from God concerning hell, and that the person who dies without having received Christ as Savior is headed for it is so clear that it is incredible that people refuse to accept the reality of its existence. But because it is an unpleasant subject, many people come up with any excuse they can to explain it away. And they go to great effort to try and convince others to reject the reality of it.

The gate that leads to life is indeed narrow-faith in Christ; and the gate that leads to destruction is broad-religion.

Acts 16:31 'Believe in the Lord Jesus and you will be saved...

John 3:36 'He who believes in the Son has eternal life; but he who does not believe the Son shall not see life, but the wrath of God abides on him.'

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Old 07-16-2010, 10:30 AM
 
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Excellent post Betsey. The clear revelation from God concerning hell, and that the person who dies without having received Christ as Savior is headed for it is so clear that it is incredible that people refuse to accept the reality of its existence. But because it is an unpleasent subject, many people come up with any excuse they can to explain it away. And they go to great effort to try and convince others to reject the reality of it.

The gate that leads to life is indeed narrow-faith in Christ; and the gate that leads to destruction is broad-religion.

Acts 16:31 'Believe in the Lord Jesus and you will be saved...

John 3:36 'He who believes in the Son has eternal life; but he who does not believe the Son shall not see life, but the wrath of God abides on him.'

Confessing Jesus as Lord is a trustworthy thing to do.
 
Old 07-16-2010, 10:32 AM
 
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That's the entire lie of UR right there in a nutshell........it bypasses the Son, period! Very, very sad. Father forgive them, please help them to understand and come to the knowledge of Your truth, before it too late. In Jesus name we pray, amen.
AMEN!!!

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Excellent post Betsey. The clear revelation from God concerning hell, and that the person who dies without having received Christ as Savior is headed for it is so clear that it is incredible that people refuse to accept the reality of its existence. But because it is an unpleasent subject, many people come up with any excuse they can to explain it away. And they go to great effort to try and convince others to reject the reality of it.

The gate that leads to life is indeed narrow-faith in Christ; and the gate that leads to destruction is broad-religion.

Acts 16:31 'Believe in the Lord Jesus and you will be saved...

John 3:36 'He who believes in the Son has eternal life; but he who does not believe the Son shall not see life, but the wrath of God abides on him.'
AMEN!!!
 
Old 07-16-2010, 10:38 AM
 
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AMEN!!!



AMEN!!!


Confessing Jesus as Lord is a Trustworthy thing to do.
 
Old 07-16-2010, 10:40 AM
 
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And someone flat out asked Jesus if everyone was going to be saved:

Luke 13:23-28 Someone asked him, "Lord, are only a few people going to be saved?"

He said to them, 24"Make every effort to enter through the narrow door, because many, I tell you, will try to enter and will not be able to. 25Once the owner of the house gets up and closes the door, you will stand outside knocking and pleading, 'Sir, open the door for us.'

"But he will answer, 'I don't know you or where you come from.'


26"Then you will say, 'We ate and drank with you, and you taught in our streets.'

27"But he will reply, 'I don't know you or where you come from. Away from me, all you evildoers!'

28"There will be weeping there, and gnashing of teeth, when you see Abraham, Isaac and Jacob and all the prophets in the kingdom of God, but you yourselves thrown out.

Amen!
 
Old 07-16-2010, 10:42 AM
 
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That's not what Jesus said.
Genesis 1:1
In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.

Psalm 102:25
In thebeginning you laid the foundations of the earth, and the heavens are the work of your hands.

Proverbs 8:23
I was appointed from eternity, from the beginning, before the world began.

** Just who is "I" in Proverbs 8:23 ? ... was God appointing himself or somebody that was with him at the beginning? ***

John 1:1
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

John 6:64
Yet there are some of you who do not believe." For Jesus had known from the beginning which of them did not believe and who would betray him.

1 John 1:1
[ The Word of Life ] That which was from the beginning, which we have heard, which we have seen with our eyes, which we have looked at and our hands have touched-this we proclaim concerning the Word of life.

Revelation 21:6
He [Jesus] said to me: "It is done. I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End. To him who is thirsty I will give to drink without cost from the spring of the water of life."

John 4:10, 14
Jesus answered her, "If you knew the gift of God and who it is that asks you for a drink, you would have asked him and he would have given you living water.....but whoever drinks the water I give him will never thirst. Indeed, the water I give him will become in him a spring of water welling up to eternal life."

Jesus call himself God in John 4:10, 14 and Rev 21:6

Jesus was at the beginning..
God was at the beginning....

Jesus calls himself "Alpha and Omega" Rev 21:6
God calls himself "Alpha and Omega" Rev 22:13
 
Old 07-16-2010, 10:52 AM
 
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Jesus call himself God in John 4:10, 14

Jesus spoke the words in other verses that explains exactly what it is that we are to say.

Jesus talks of being equal with God, and he says specifically that the father is greater than he.

He also admonishes a man for calling him Good Teacher and pointed to the father saying there is only one that is good.


I appreciate your verses, but those verses do not have any text with Jesus speaking saying HE IS GOD, they just are not there.

The inference you make is not needed because JESUS himself tells you about it.

Most of the time, people do not like what someone says so they post verses and make a better case for the bible contradicting itself.


It is a contradiction to say Jesus IS GOD and then to hear JESUS own words saying the FATHER is greater than I.

But since the bible does not contain the words you assert, there is no contradiction in the first place in the bible, the contradiction is people saying that Jesus called himself God.

How many times am I told to read scripture and when I do people post things and expect me to believe words that are not there.
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