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1 John 3
[7] Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous.
[8] He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.
[9] Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.
Hilgi. No one can to all the commandments. G-d is not amazed by that. He knows there is no Temple. He knows we don't all live in Israel. He knows that the priesthood is too small right now to handle everything. He knows that all countries do not have compatible laws. He knows that everyone on earth, without exception, is ceremonially unclean.
Hilgi. No one can to all the commandments. G-d is not amazed by that. He knows there is no Temple. He knows we don't all live in Israel. He knows that the priesthood is too small right now to handle everything. He knows that all countries do not have compatible laws. He knows that everyone on earth, without exception, is ceremonially unclean.
Really, your question is moot.
But if someone is saying that I am going to hell for not keeping all of the laws HE decides I need to keep, it is an important question what that list is.
But if someone is saying that I am going to hell for not keeping all of the laws HE decides I need to keep, it is an important question what that list is.
Study the NT, and you'll find all of His commandments. Once again, the soul that sins shall die.
But how can a God be served when he applies such confusing and contradicting principles such as this:
Mathew 10:28
fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.
Mathew 22:37
Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God
1 John 4:18
There is no fear in love
Fear God. Love God. There is no fear in love. How does this make any sense at all?
It makes perfect sense to them with the Spirit of God, and they obey from the heart; they walk in God's holiness and righteousness.
1 Peter 4
[1] Forasmuch then as Christ hath suffered for us in the flesh, arm yourselves likewise with the same mind: for he that hath suffered in the flesh hath ceased from sin;
[2] That he no longer should live the rest of his time in the flesh to the lusts of men, but to the will of God.
But how can a God be served when he applies such confusing and contradicting principles such as this:
Mathew 10:28
fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.
Mathew 22:37
Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God
1 John 4:18
There is no fear in love
Fear God. Love God. There is no fear in love. How does this make any sense at all?
This is why the Bible says to "study." When one truly studies, truly gets interested, truly gets curious, truly wants to KNOW what the book says, they will seek the information, using language resources, asking, hearing, and find out who, what, why, how.
Both Hebrew and Greek have words that can be difficult to translate. The English Bibles often use the same translations for words that havbe different meanings. That is the nature of translation as well as the previous beliefs of the translator. That is why many people here say, "Don't depend upon one translation; use several, so that you may glean from them the intention of the writers." Others say, "Learn the languages." We do what we can, and trust G-d to teach us.
...We agree that the Grace of God saves but you also say that if we are truly saved we are perfect, this I agree if by perfect you mean the imputed righteousness from Jesus on the Cross.
AMEN & AMEN....! The enemy of truth is doing his best to HIDE the understanding of imputation!
Psalms 32:2
2 Blessed is the man unto whom the LORD imputeth not iniquity,
and in whose spirit there is no guile. KJV
Romans 4:6
6 Even as David also describeth the blessedness of the man,
unto whom God imputeth righteousness without works, KJV
AMEN & AMEN....! The enemy of truth is doing his best to HIDE the understanding of imputation!
Psalms 32:2
2 Blessed is the man unto whom the LORD imputeth not iniquity,
and in whose spirit there is no guile. KJV
Romans 4:6
6 Even as David also describeth the blessedness of the man,
unto whom God imputeth righteousness without works, KJV
Peace...Rkin
He is also trying to dodge the 613 since he knows he does not keep them all by trying to say it is all in the NT.
The NT also says Matt 5:20 "For I say to you that unless your righteousness surpasses that of the scribes and Pharisees, you will not enter the kingdom of heaven."
The Pharisees tried to obey all 613! Our only hope is the imputed righteousness of Jesus.
It makes perfect sense to them with the Spirit of God, and they obey from the heart; they walk in God's holiness and righteousness.
1 Peter 4
[1] Forasmuch then as Christ hath suffered for us in the flesh, arm yourselves likewise with the same mind: for he that hath suffered in the flesh hath ceased from sin;
[2] That he no longer should live the rest of his time in the flesh to the lusts of men, but to the will of God.
Glory to God! This is deep!
What? This doesn't answer anything at all.
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Originally Posted by VelcroQueen
This is why the Bible says to "study." When one truly studies, truly gets interested, truly gets curious, truly wants to KNOW what the book says, they will seek the information, using language resources, asking, hearing, and find out who, what, why, how.
Both Hebrew and Greek have words that can be difficult to translate. The English Bibles often use the same translations for words that havbe different meanings. That is the nature of translation as well as the previous beliefs of the translator. That is why many people here say, "Don't depend upon one translation; use several, so that you may glean from them the intention of the writers." Others say, "Learn the languages." We do what we can, and trust G-d to teach us.
Read the entire passages around it if you want. It does not make sense, studying has nothing to do with it (but I have on/off for two decades). All three of those passages, in any version you want, do not make sense together. Also, it seems a bad practice to just "change versions" everytime you get an answer you don't want from the bible. This is like saying if you don't like the weather forecast on one channel just change the channel until you get a report you like. It still won't make it stop raining outside.
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