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It was the western Latin speaking roman Catholics that made ET the orthodox doctrine, hence the dark ages ... So yeah, fundamentalist Christians do think God is like the Romans, only infinitely more cruel.
You know you are incorrect here with this statement, as I have already proved, among others.
It is so pointless to debate with people that don't even respect God! With people who only want to pick and choose which parts of His words are believable and simply "do away" with the rest, these have at least chosen, there are others though who haven't, but truly desire to know.
God spoke about hell long before Mary Baxter's vision!! Bottom line! Yet, you don't BELIEVE HIM!!!! Let them tell it, there's no such place!!
Carry on........................there's plenty of roads that leads right there. Keep it up..
God never spoke about hell, hell is a pagan myth. The writers of the scriptures, inspired by God, wrote about Hades and Sheol(the grave) and they wrote about tartaroo(on one occasion) and Gehenna(a trash pit), but the word hell is Germanic, and does not appearing the Hebrew or the Greek texts.
There is no such place as the mythical hell ... Other than here on planet earth.
I couldn't agree more with your post, but to be fair, others including myself have been guilty of that as well (accusing people of lying, or being delusional because we don't agree with their views/opinions)
I'm sure that you will agree, that NONE of what's posted on here makes any blooming sense, as it's all based on conjecture and speculation and one woman's nightmare that she felt she had to broadcast to the world, for whatever motive we will never know, whether to make a fast buck or put fears into people's hearts, either way, it certainly was a win-win situation for her but not for many others terrorized by what she had written
I'll believe God's words over any human. Trouble is, I'm still waiting to hear from God. So far he's been amazingly silent.
Oh, you'll hear from Him. There's one of two ways you can meet Him, as friend, or foe, and yes, you get to choose!! Praying that it will be sooner, rather than later!
PS: By the way......It's in the silence when you can hear Him best! Ask me how, I'll be happy to show you how.
You know you are incorrect here with this statement, as I have already proved, among others.
You have never proven anything.It is a historical fact that many of the Arabic Eastern Orthodox churches were universalist.The western Roman church won the battle to determine the official view of the church with the aid of the Roman emperor Constantine's temporal power.Any denial of this from you is irrelevant when people can research the history of the original Eastern Orthodox churches for themselves.
From wiki
In the first five or six centuries of Christian history, the majority of theological schools in the East taught Universalism. The most important such school was the Didascalium in Alexandria, Egypt, which was founded by Saint Pantaenus ca. 190 C.E.Alexandria was the center of learning and intellectual discourse in the ancient Mediterranean world, and was the theological center of gravity of Christianity prior to the rise of the imperial Roman Church.Alexandrian Christianity emphasized apocatastasis and theosis as its main teachings.
Saint Clement of Alexandria succeeded Pantaenus as the second head of the Didascalium in the late 2nd century. He was a prolific writer who combined Bible scholarship with Greek philosophy to present a systematic theology based on Christian Universalist beliefs.
Origen was the student and successor of Clement of Alexandria. This 3rd century theologian is generally regarded as the most significant of all the ancient teachers of Christian Universalism. He wrote over 6,000 works including commentaries on almost every book of the Bible, sermons, treatises, letters, apologies, and the Hexapla, a scholarly translation of the Old Testament.
Saint Gregory of Nyssa and Saint Macrina the Younger, who were brother and sister, were both prominent Christian Universalists of the 4th century in the Alexandrian tradition of Clement and Origen.Gregory of Nyssa was a bishop and theologian. Macrina the Younger was the leader of a convent of nuns.
Another branch of Christian Universalism in the ancient church, separate from the Alexandria school, was the Nestorian movement which later became the Assyrian Church of the East. Nestorianism originated in the 5th century in Constantinople and Antioch. Theodore of Mopsuestia was an influential bishop who introduced universal reconciliation into the liturgy of the Nestorians, and who is still honored in the Nestorian tradition as the "Interpreter" of the faith.
Even today the hope of universalism is allowed within Orthodoxy as a theologumen.
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You have never proven anything.It is a historical fact that many of the Arabic Eastern Orthodox churches were universalist.The western Roman church won the battle to determine the official view of the church with the aid of the Roman emperor Constantine's temporal power.Any denial of this from you is irrelevant when people can research the history of the original Eastern Orthodox churches for themselves.
From wiki
In the first five or six centuries of Christian history, the majority of theological schools in the East taught Universalism. The most important such school was the Didascalium in Alexandria, Egypt, which was founded by Saint Pantaenus ca. 190 C.E.Alexandria was the center of learning and intellectual discourse in the ancient Mediterranean world, and was the theological center of gravity of Christianity prior to the rise of the imperial Roman Church.Alexandrian Christianity emphasized apocatastasis and theosis as its main teachings.
Saint Clement of Alexandria succeeded Pantaenus as the second head of the Didascalium in the late 2nd century. He was a prolific writer who combined Bible scholarship with Greek philosophy to present a systematic theology based on Christian Universalist beliefs.
Origen was the student and successor of Clement of Alexandria. This 3rd century theologian is generally regarded as the most significant of all the ancient teachers of Christian Universalism. He wrote over 6,000 works including commentaries on almost every book of the Bible, sermons, treatises, letters, apologies, and the Hexapla, a scholarly translation of the Old Testament.
Saint Gregory of Nyssa and Saint Macrina the Younger, who were brother and sister, were both prominent Christian Universalists of the 4th century in the Alexandrian tradition of Clement and Origen.Gregory of Nyssa was a bishop and theologian. Macrina the Younger was the leader of a convent of nuns.
Another branch of Christian Universalism in the ancient church, separate from the Alexandria school, was the Nestorian movement which later became the Assyrian Church of the East. Nestorianism originated in the 5th century in Constantinople and Antioch. Theodore of Mopsuestia was an influential bishop who introduced universal reconciliation into the liturgy of the Nestorians, and who is still honored in the Nestorian tradition as the "Interpreter" of the faith.
Even today the hope of universalism is allowed within Orthodoxy as a theologumen.
Want to go some rounds on another thread?
Save your wiki sources, I will produce many works predating Christ, contemporary to Him, and post crux.
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but not for many others terrorized by what she had written
Ask me how, I'll be happy to show you how. 