Did Christ fail in his mission? (prophets, Calvinist, Creator, vain)

[look3467]

"One cannot put their hand to the plow, while wielding the sword of destruction."

Chapter and verse please?

Blessings, AJ

[Jerwade]

Originally Posted by Jerwade

"One cannot put their hand to the plow, while wielding the sword of destruction."

Originally Posted by look3467

Chapter and verse please?

The Spirit conciliates or reconciles the prodigals and angry competitors of adversity; those
who wield the sword to their own destruction, never plowing the fields of their own mind.

It's from the Book of Life, not that of death.

[rodgertutt]

Originally Posted by Ironmaw1776

Mat 18:11
For the Son of man is come to save that which was lost.
Luk 19:10
For the Son of man is come to seek and to save that which was lost.

If most people are lost forever, then how can it be said that Christ was successful?

Mar 2:17
And hearing this, Jesus said to them, "It is not those who are healthy who need a physician, but those who are sick; I did not come to call the righteous, but sinners."

And if being a sinner is a sickness, one which requires the healing power of God, then why would God eternally damn sinners and unbelievers when it is in his power to heal them and give them repentance?

The fact of the matter is, according to traditional fundamentalist Christianity, the Word of God (Christ) is of none effect, and Christ failed in his mission to give repentance to the lost and in healing sinners of their spiritual disease ... Again fundamentalists teach that most of the people in the world who are lost and spiritually sick will never be found or healed, and so if what they teach is true, then Christ failed in his mission.

THE CHRIST OF GLORY – MARVIN W. RICE
“May we get a glimpse of Christ’s wondrous Person as we peer into Sacred Writ. As we go back before the ages of time, through the eons of the Scriptures, forward to the grand finale, to the consummation of the ages, to that day when total reconciliation is completed and eternity continues.

‘every knee bowing, celestial
and terrestrial and subterranean,
and every tongue acclaiming that
Jesus Christ is Lord, for the
glory of the Father’

God would receive no glory merely to see the unbelievers agree that Jesus is Lord, but too late, thus going off to destruction. Nay! The blood of the cross will prevail in every situation, eliminating all sins. What august glory this will bring to the Father as every last one of His creatures acclaim His beloved Son as their Lord!”

[ahigherway]

Scripture flash!

"And a certain man was there, which had an infirmity thirty and eight years.
When Jesus saw him lie, and knew that he had been now a long time in that case, he saith unto him, Wilt thou be made whole?
The impotent man answered him, Sir, I have no man, when the water is troubled, to put me into the pool: but while I am coming, another steppeth down before me.
Jesus saith unto him, Rise, take up thy bed, and walk.
And immediately the man was made whole, and took up his bed, and walked: and on the same day was the sabbath.
The Jews therefore said unto him that was cured, It is the sabbath day: it is not lawful for thee to carry thy bed." John 5

This man was sick, and could do nothing about it. It took Jesus Himself to heal this man. If Jesus hadn't given him the word directly, he would have never walked.

The same is true with Lazarus. Lazarus is a type of our own soul in death. Only Jesus could call forth the dead. "The time is coming when the dead shall hear My voice. And those who hear My voice shall live."

Blessings,
brian

[rodgertutt]

Did Christ fail in his mission? NO!!! - FOR GOD IS LOVE

A snippet from
LIFE FOR ALL - CHARLES W. COTTON
“The lake of fire will be abolished when it burns itself out because there is no evil left for it to feed upon, and the whole universe will throb with joy when the second death is abolished with the successful completion of the great and glorious work the Lord Jesus will bring to full fruition with the perfecting of all in the heavens and on earth.

What a prospect! God’s purpose of the ages (Eph. 3:11) fulfilled in perfect accord with His irresistible will. ‘And every creature which is in heaven and on the earth, and under the earth, and on the sea, and all that are in them, heard I saying, ‘Unto Him Who sits on the throne, and unto the Lamb be the blessing, and the honor, and the glory, and the dominion, for the ages of the ages (Rev. 5:13) – a grand Hallelujah Chorus echoing through the boundless universe and proclaiming that God IS Love.”

[look3467]

Originally Posted by rodgertutt

Did Christ fail in his mission? NO!!! - FOR GOD IS LOVE

A snippet from
LIFE FOR ALL - CHARLES W. COTTON
“The lake of fire will be abolished when it burns itself out because there is no evil left for it to feed upon, and the whole universe will throb with joy when the second death is abolished with the successful completion of the great and glorious work the Lord Jesus will bring to full fruition with the perfecting of all in the heavens and on earth.

What a prospect! God’s purpose of the ages (Eph. 3:11) fulfilled in perfect accord with His irresistible will. ‘And every creature which is in heaven and on the earth, and under the earth, and on the sea, and all that are in them, heard I saying, ‘Unto Him Who sits on the throne, and unto the Lamb be the blessing, and the honor, and the glory, and the dominion, for the ages of the ages (Rev. 5:13) – a grand Hallelujah Chorus echoing through the boundless universe and proclaiming that God IS Love.”

The lake of fire will never be abolished! The love of God is a fiery furnace, a kiln if you will, where God burns off the sin and he dross and refines us to a perfect vessel.

Fire, real fire only exists in the present time frame world as does sin.
But spiritually speaking, God is an all consuming fire.

The fire of God burns within this present time frame as His Holy Spirit who deals with all of us individually according to His will.

Exo 3:2 And the angel of the LORD appeared unto him in a flame of fire out of the midst of a bush: and he looked, and, behold, the bush burned with fire, and the bush was not consumed.

Exo 24:17 And the sight of the glory of the LORD was like devouring fire on the top of the mount in the eyes of the children of Israel.

Lev 6:13 The fire shall ever be burning upon the altar; it shall never go out.

Psa 21:9 Thou shalt make them as a fiery oven in the time of thine anger: the LORD shall swallow them up in his wrath, and the fire shall devour them.

Note: For Jesus to save us all, He must take on the wrath of God for us, thus taken, we are then swallowed up in the lake of God's love where all else is thrown in and cleansed, for Jesus paid the price for our cleansing.

In stead of us being judged, Jesus was Judged.

Can we think of any reason why we should be judged, other than "what we sow , that shall we reap" in the current time zone?

‘Unto Him Who sits on the throne, and unto the Lamb be the blessing, and the honor, and the glory, and the dominion, for the ages of the ages

Jesus as a prince became King, of which the earthly crown (Crown of thorns) wounded His head (The seat of His kingdom) temporally, but as God, sits on His thrown as King, as He always was/is/shall be.

The "work" has already been done" completed on earth as it is in heaven in Jesus.

If the law condemned in the first creation and grace forgives in the second creation, then who is not covered?

Blessings, AJ

[rodgertutt]

Everyone who is cast into the lake of fire which is the second death will be saved out of it.

Greek scholar William Barclay wrote concerning kolasis aionion (age-during corrective chastisement) in Matthew 25:46
"The Greek word for punishment is kolasis. There is no instance in Greek secular literature where kolasis does not mean remedial punishment. It is a simple fact that in Greek kolasis always means remedial punishment. God's punishment is always for man's cure."

See what other Greek scholars say about it too.
AN ANALYTICAL STUDY OF WORDS
Chapter Eleven

Fifteen literally translated (not interpretively translated) Bibles that reveal what God will do with the sinners in Matthew 25:46
Concordant Literal, Young’s literal, Wilson’s Emphatic Diaglott, Rotherham’s Emphasized, Scarlett’s, J.W. Hanson’s New Covenant, Twentieth Century, Ferrar Fenton, The Western New Testament, Weymouth’s (unedited), Clementson’s, The New Testament of our Lord and Savior Jesus Anointed, The Restoration of Original Sacred Name Bible, Bullinger’s Companion Bible margins, Jonathan Mitchell’s translation (2010).

Regarding the meaning of aionios, many Greek scholars agree with John Wesley Hanson.
AIÓN – AIÓNIOS
AIN -- AINIOS

SEE

THE SCHOLARS CORNER THE CENTER FOR BIBLE STUDIES IN CHRISTIAN UNIVERSALISM
Scholar's Corner: The Center for Bible studies in Christian Universalism

[look3467]

..."man's cure."

Is the death of Jesus!

Without His death, there would be no cure for any man period!

Blessings, AJ

[rodgertutt]

Originally Posted by look3467

Man's cure is the death of Jesus!
Without His death, there would be no cure for any man period!
Blessings, AJ

Sooner or later, because of what Christ accomplished by His death and resurrection, through the power in the blood of His cross, God is going to save everyone from everything from which they need to be saved, including their stubborn will.

A snippet from
ALL IN ALL by A.E. Knoch

The blood of Christ is the basis of all blessing. The purpose of God determines human destiny. It does not depend on our deserts. The plan or process of God during the eons or ages must be distinguished from His purpose which will not be fully accomplished until the eons are past. Herein lies the difference between the teaching of the Scriptures and the accepted creeds of Christendom.

The believer suffers in the current era because of sin, but will be released in the resurrection at the presence of Christ. The unbeliever will have affliction and anguish for his sins in the judgment, but he also becomes reconciled to God at the consummation, through the blood of Christ’s cross. (Col.1-20).

Universal reconciliation is the glorious goal toward which all leads. All of God’s purpose is achieved through Him Who is the Alpha and the Omega (Rev.1:8). “In Him the entire complement delights to dwell, and through Him [God delights] to reconcile all to Him (making peace through the blood of His cross), through him, whether those on the earth or those in the heavens” (Col.1:19,20).

The terms translated “forever” and “everlasting” and “never” are human perversions which could never have deceived us if they had been consistently rendered. They denote definite divisions of time called ages or eons. All together they form a distinct portion of time called eonian times. Much in our common creeds is true if confined within the eons, but it is most malignant error when forced beyond the eons.

Since judgment is not eternal, but eonian, we may accept all the solemn threats of death and condemnation without reservation, while happily exulting in God’s grand goal to which all His labors lead: that God may be All in All (1Cor.15:28)."

Lighthouse Library International - ALL IN ALL, ADOLPH E||&type=&what=author

[Huckleberry3911948]

he came to save those who wanted saving. not everybody does.