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This is what I've been trying to tell you. That is why there will be those that are lost.
Lost? I think not! I have a clear view of reality, I'm not following a myth into the land of fables. It is not the non-believer that is lost, but those following the myth.
It will happen ... God was, in Christ, reconciling everything to himself. The restoration of ALL THINGS will happen ...
Acts 3:21
whom heaven must receive until the period of restoration of all things about which God spoke by the mouth of His holy prophets from ancient time.
Christ says he is making everything new ...
Revelation21:5
He who was seated on the throne said, “I am making everything new!” Then he said, “Write this down, for these words are trustworthy and true.”
There is coming a time when everything will be restored and all things will find their head in one together in Christ, after which God shall be all and in all things.
Ephesians 1:10
to be put into effect when the times will have reached their fulfillment--to bring all things in heaven and on earth together under one head, even Christ.
1 Corinthians 15:25-28
For he must reign until he has put all his enemies under his feet. The last enemy to be destroyed is death. For he “has put everything under his feet.” Now when it says that “everything” has been put under him, it is clear that this does not include God himself, who put everything under Christ. When he has done this, then the Son himself will be made subject to him who put everything under him, so that God may be all in all.
This is the mystery kept hidden since ancient times.
Ephesians 3:9
and to make plain to everyone the administration of this mystery, which for ages past was kept hidden in God, who created all things.
God spoke this mystery out of the mouth of his holy prophets in ancient times ...
Quote:
Psa 22:27 All the ends of the earth will remember and turn to the LORD, And all the families of the nations will worship before You.
Psa 66:4
"All the earth will worship You, And will sing praises to You; They will sing praises to Your name." Selah.
Psa 67:4 Let the nations be glad and sing for joy; For You will judge the peoples with uprightness And guide the nations on the earth. Selah.
(Why should the people of the world sing for joy if Gods judgments amount to most of humanity being tortured and or annihilated?)
Psa 98:4 Shout to the LORD, all the earth; break out in praise and sing for joy!
Psa 145:3-9
Great is the Lord and most worthy of praise;his greatness no one can fathom.
One generation will commend your works to another;
they will tell of your mighty acts.
They will speak of the glorious splendor of your majesty,
and I will meditate on your wonderful works.
They will tell of the power of your awesome works,
and I will proclaim your great deeds. They will celebrate your abundant goodness and joyfully sing of your righteousness.
The Lord is gracious and compassionate,
slow to anger and rich in love. The Lord is good to all; he has compassion on all he has made. <----------- !!!!!! All you have made will praise you, O Lord; <----------- !!!!!!
your saints will extol you.
Isa 26:19
But your dead will live; their bodies will rise. You who dwell in the dust, wake up and shout for joy. Your dew is like the dew of the morning; the earth will give birth to her dead.
Isa 45:23
By myself I have sworn; from my mouth has gone out in righteousness a word that shall not return: ‘To me every knee shall bow, every tongue shall swear allegiance.
Satan will be saved.
As will everyone else who needs saving.
RECONCILIATION IN THE HEAVENS
Reconciliation in the Heavens Reconciliation in the Heavens
Originally Posted by Ironmaw
Quote:
It will happen ... God was, in Christ, reconciling ALL to Himself.
The restoration of ALL will happen ...
Acts 3:21
whom heaven must receive until the period of restoration of all things about which God spoke by the mouth of His holy prophets from ancient time.
Christ says He is making everything new ...
Revelation 21:5
He who was seated on the throne said, “I am making everything new!” Then He said, “Write this down, for these words are trustworthy and true.”
There is coming a time when everything will be restored and all will find their head in one together in Christ, after which God shall be All and in all.
Ephesians 1:10
to be put into effect when the times will have reached their fulfillment--to bring all things in heaven and on earth together under one head, even Christ.
1 Corinthians 15:25-28
For He must reign until He has put all His enemies under His feet.
The last enemy to be destroyed is death. For He “has put everything under His feet.”
Now when it says that “everything” has been put under Him, it is clear that this does not include God himself, who put everything under Christ.
When he has done this, then the Son himself will be made subject to Him who put everything under Him, so that God may be All in all.
This is the mystery kept hidden since ancient times.
Ephesians 3:9
and to make plain to everyone the administration of this mystery, which for ages past was kept hidden in God, who created all things.
God spoke this mystery out of the mouth of his holy prophets in ancient times ...
Quote:
Psa 22:27 All the ends of the earth will remember and turn to the LORD, and all the families of the nations will worship before You.
Psa 66:4
"All the earth will worship You, and will sing praises to You; They will sing praises to Your name." Selah.
Psa 67:4
Let the nations be glad and sing for joy; For You will judge the peoples with uprightness And guide the nations on the earth. Selah.
(Why should the people of the world sing for joy if Gods judgments amount to most of humanity being tortured and or annihilated?)
Psa 98:4
Shout to the LORD, all the earth; break out in praise and sing for joy!
Psa 145:3-9
Great is the Lord and most worthy of praise; His greatness no one can fathom.
One generation will commend Your works to another;
they will tell of Your mighty acts.
They will speak of the glorious splendor of Your majesty,
and I will meditate on Your wonderful works.
They will tell of the power of Your awesome works,
and I will proclaim Your great deeds.
They will celebrate Your abundant goodness
and joyfully sing of Your righteousness.
The Lord is gracious and compassionate,
slow to anger and rich in love.
The Lord is good to all;
He has compassion on all He has made. <----------- !!!!!! All you have made will praise you, O Lord. <----------- !!!!!!
Isa 26:19
But your dead will live; their bodies will rise. You who dwell in the dust, wake up and shout for joy.
Your dew is like the dew of the morning; the earth will give birth to her dead.
Isa 45:23
By myself I have sworn; from my mouth has gone out in righteousness a word that shall not return:
‘To me every knee shall bow, every tongue shall swear allegiance.'
Phil. 2:11 'Every tongue will confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.'
And we know that anyone who acclaims that Jesus Christ is Lord, especially when it is to God's glory without any hypocrisy is saved for 1Corinthians 12:3 says so.
The restoration of all things by the mouth of prophets
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ironmaw1776
It will happen ... God was, in Christ, reconciling everything to himself. The restoration of ALL will happen ...
Acts 3:21
whom heaven must receive until the period of restoration of all things about which God spoke by the mouth of His holy prophets from ancient time.
In anticipation of objections to Ironmaw using the above scripture in support of UR, here is a snippet from Canadian George Hawtin's writing
THE RESTITUTION OF ALL THINGS.
Starting with the second paragraph George wrote.
"Some will no doubt reply to this by stating, as many do, that Peter was not promising that God would restore everything but only those things of which the prophets had spoken. I wish, however, to show as clearly as possible that the grammatical construction of this sentence declares the exact opposite to be the truth. I mean that Peter was actually saying that all the prophets from the beginning of the world had prophesied that there would be a restoration of all things and that the restoration would indeed be universal and would include all things."
The restoration of ALL will happen but not by "chance"
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ironmaw1776
It will happen ... God was, in Christ, reconciling everything to Himself. The restoration of ALL will happen ...
NO SECOND “CHANCE” TO BE SAVED
Continuing with the same theme:
Ray Prinzing (my hero and mentor) wrote in his daily devotional book called DAILY OVERCOMING that I read today.
“The process of salvation is wrought out "every man in his own order."
Jesus clearly taught that "no man can come to Me unless the Father Who sent me draw him," giving indication that the initiative for salvation is God's as He causes us to come to Jesus in His time, to be in that order, that rank that He determined for us.
But He also made it clear, regardless of the timing of our call
"As it is written in the prophets, they shall all be taught of God." John 6:44,45 (end of quote)
PS: All of Ray Prinzing’s writings can be read on the internet.
“That we should be to the praise of His glory, who first trusted in Christ.”
Eph. 1:12
It will happen ... God was, in Christ, reconciling everything to himself. The restoration of ALL will happen ...
OUR SAVIOUR -- GOD
We are not saved by being given a "chance."
Here is a snippet from OUR SAVIOUR GOD by James Coram
"The grace of God is effective, not merely potential.
Faith is God’s gracious gift to us, with which He overwhelms our former unbelief, imparting to all whom He calls a measure thereof, whenever it delights Him to unveil His Son in us (cf Phil.1:29; 1 Tim.1:13-16; Rom.12:3; Gal. 1:15,16)
This proves that salvation is not a refusable offer, and that faith is not spiritual currency.
Faith is not meritorious. Accepting Christ is not a transaction.
Salvation is a gracious gift, not a covenant or agreement.
Those who are yet of a mind to “strike a deal” with God, are in no mood to acknowledge their need of a Saviour."
"The prevailing idea today is that God saves us (from “eternal punishment”) only after we first save ourselves from being disqualified
for His alleged “gift.” While He wishes to assist us even in this, He will only do so if we are willing and cooperative. One must save himself from unwillingness they say.
So finally, we are left on our own. When we need Him the most, He will do nothing.
That is: God helps those who help themselves.
But we must not boast of what we have “let” the Lord do in our lives. Submission to Him can never afford us an occasion for self-boasting,
but only a further opportunity to thank God for His saving grace.
It wounds our self-respect to think that we might actually need such a gracious and powerful provision.
And when we recognize God’s true grace, it cuts ever so deeply into our pride.
Many are ready to assure us that such grace is neither given nor needed.
We find such claims to be quite flattering; they make it easier for us to preserve our self-reliant attitudes and ways."
"When we ask the question, Why? we are often inquiring concerning the purpose of something that has occurred. That which has a purpose is purposed to occur—it is caused to occur for a specific purpose.
It is evident that whatever occurs for a purpose takes place due to a cause, for it is absurd to conceive of a thing of chance having a purpose.
Why? is frequently asked as well when seeking for an explanation, for that which will account for or reveal the particular cause of an occurrence.
The word “why” always presupposes causality; it merely seeks to know the particulars involved in a certain matter.
Anyone who believes in free will should never ask, Why? concerning any of life’s affairs.
Though God certainly has not forced us to love Him, or rather merely to pretend to do so, nonetheless, He has introduced a myriad of influences into our lives which He has wisely designed in such a way that they are certain to affect us so that we genuinely and voluntarily love our Subjector.
For “the grace of our Lord overwhelms, with faith and love in Christ Jesus” (1 Tim.1:14). (end quote)
Sooner or later, with or without the use of kolasis aionion (age-during corrective punishment) God's love, according to God's timing for each individual, will save everyone from everything from which they need to be saved, especially their stubborn will.
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That is why there will be those that are lost.
And none of this will occur by "chance"
The restoration of all things by the mouth of prophets
The restoration of ALL will happen but not by "chance"
