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Old 09-17-2010, 06:49 PM
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Default Why are we only warned about "false prophets"?

From time to time, I see posts where people say that the New Testament warns us not to listen to "false prophets"? Wouldn't it just have been a lot less confusing if we'd just been warned not to listen to "prophets," period? I don't know of anybody but the LDS who believe that God still speaks to "true prophets." Why weren't we told to beware of "prophets" in general instead of just "false prophets"?
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Old 09-17-2010, 09:07 PM
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From time to time, I see posts where people say that the New Testament warns us not to listen to "false prophets"? Wouldn't it just have been a lot less confusing if we'd just been warned not to listen to "prophets," period? I don't know of anybody but the LDS who believe that God still speaks to "true prophets." Why weren't we told to beware of "prophets" in general instead of just "false prophets"?
This is an area, of course, that we disagree. Jesus was the culmination of several thousand years of prophesy about the coming of the Messiah. There is no need for any more prophets. Particularly one who discusses an incredible history in the New World without any archeological proof. A work of fiction, aka false. I submit to you that ALL prophets since the resurrection of Jesus have been false.

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Old 09-17-2010, 09:28 PM
 
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Then why doesn't the Bible say - "there will be NO MORE prophets!" ???
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Old 09-17-2010, 10:09 PM
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Then why doesn't the Bible say - "there will be NO MORE prophets!" ???
Maybe you should read the last sentence in John. (John 21:25)

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Old 09-17-2010, 10:18 PM
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This is an area, of course, that we disagree. Jesus was the culmination of several thousand years of prophesy about the coming of the Messiah. There is no need for any more prophets. I submit to you that ALL prophets since the resurrection of Jesus have been false.
But in the Old Testament, we're told that God would never do anything without first revealing His intentions to His prophets. It didn't say that this would stop after the coming of Christ. Besides, the role of prophets extends beyond prophesying. A big part of their purpose is to ensure that scripture is understood as it was meant to be understood. Perhaps, had there still been living prophets in the 4th century, there would have been no need for a pagan emperor with a political agenda to call a council to settle the matter of the nature of God. The controversies over Christian doctrine could have been resolved by an appeal to God by the individual He'd chosen to act as His mouthpiece. If the people could have known that there was a prophet to whom God was speaking, the huge controversies such as Arianism would have never gotten so out of hand.

It just seems so unlike God to just suddenly leave His Church without a Prophet when, for four thousand years His people had prophets to guide them. They didn't just have the written word of a prophet who'd lived a thousand or more years earlier. They had a living prophet. To me, the fact that the scriptures warn us against listening to false prophets as opposed to just prophets in general is clearly indicative that God never intended to stop talking.

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Old 09-17-2010, 10:19 PM
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Maybe you should read the last paragraph in John.
I'm afraid I don't see where John says there will be no more prophets. Was this a typo or what?
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Old 09-17-2010, 10:27 PM
 
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I believe there are still people who have the gift of prophecy.
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Old 09-17-2010, 11:15 PM
 
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Excellent post Katzpur! I agree we were meant to keep on trucking

Do not quench the Spirit. Do not despise prophecies. Test all things; hold fast what is good.” ~ 1 Thessalonians 5:19-21

I think we can agree that a statement such as this would be pointless at the near end of the Bible if there were no more prophecies. In fact, why would Jesus ask us to test the prophets if all of them would be false? If all prophets were false then Jesus could simply say “there will be no more true prophets”.

We must test the fruits. Ahhh but to decipher a true prophet from a false prophet that is the million dollar question!

But in every Age when the Messenger came on the scene, there was always something in their teaching which was contrary to the accepted teachings of the church of that Age.
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Old 09-17-2010, 11:34 PM
 
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From time to time, I see posts where people say that the New Testament warns us not to listen to "false prophets"? Wouldn't it just have been a lot less confusing if we'd just been warned not to listen to "prophets," period? I don't know of anybody but the LDS who believe that God still speaks to "true prophets." Why weren't we told to beware of "prophets" in general instead of just "false prophets"?

Actually, most charismatic, and many full gospel groups believe in the existence of not only prophets, but also apostles, in this day and age.

Bud
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Old 09-17-2010, 11:38 PM
 
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Maybe you should read the last sentence in John. (John 21:25)
Okay, I read it.

Once again - Why doesn't the Bible say - No more prophets! ???
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