Of course it's according to God's word. The good news is the Gospel. The Gospel IS God's word.
To men, yes, but not to God. If you read James, the subject of faith vs. works being discussed is how a person shows his faith to another person. Man, who cannot see the heart must see works. God sees the heart and knows all things. God does not need to see any works to justify anyone.
Faith is not what justifies us. It is Christ alone that justifies us, and HE justifies us while we are WITHOUT faith. However, those of faith are said to be imputed with His righteousness, but justification and imputed righteousness are two different things. Faith of the Spirit is scriptural faith regardless of what someone calls it. If faith is not of the Spirit, it is not scriptural faith, regardless of how many "good works" are said to be associated with it.Yes, but the Gospel message is proclaimed to US (sinners) it is not being proclaimed to Satan. You're really comparing apples with oranges to make your point. The Good News for mankind is not the Good News for the devil. Two different things.But don't you see? Saying you believe will not justify you. It does nothing for a person. Those that believe that their faith justifies them are not imputed with the righteousness of Christ. Those that believe that it is Christ ALONE who justifies them are NOT ONLY justified BUT ALSO imputed with the Righteousness of Christ. Do you see this?
Of course! Righteousness is imputed to those with faith. But faith is NOT what JUSTIFIES that person before God. JESUS ALONE is what JUSTIFIES THE PERSON. You're confusing Justification (δικαιόω) with being imputed with righteousness (δικαιοσύνη). They are not the same act. Nor do they happen at the same time. They are two different acts that happen at two different times. Our Justification happened at the cross when our sins were imputed to Christ and Christ died for them. Our being imputed with His Righteousness happens in time when the Spirit reveals our justification to us when we are born of the Spirit. Faith, given to us by the Spirit through Grace, is the instrument by which we receive the IMPUTED RIGHTEOUSNESS of Christ. But that faith does not JUSTIFY us in anyway.
Again, it is NOT our faith that justifies us. If you believe it is your faith that justifies you, you do not believe the Gospel.Justification and imputed righteousness are two different things. This is where I think you're not seeing the Gospel Message.
Nothing is chopped up. All of it is scriptural. However, you'll need to understand what it means to be justified and what it means to be imputed with righteousness. They are not the same thing Verna.
I believe that too. That's why I'm UR
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Yes, He did. Christ died while we were dead in sins.Of course. However, you forgot Romans 8:30:
Rom 8:30 and whom He predestined, these He also called; and whom He called, these He also justified;
and whom He justified, these He also glorified.
God will bring all the
justified to glory. Notice, it says justified, that Greek word δικαιόω that we spoke about already.
Yes, however, that is not the Gospel Message.
It's not a spin Verna, and it's not my Gospel. It's the Gospel of Christ given to Paul by revelation.
First, it is not speaking of our faith that justifies us. It is speaking of the faith of Christ, His faithfulness that justifies us before God. This righteousness of God is also said to be
unto ALL AND upon all them that believe. Do you see the word AND?
Of course, but it did not JUSTIFY the person before God.
Again, your confusing our Justification with our imputed righteousness.
Yes, of course. But who's faith is spoken of? Look here:
Gal 2:16 having known also that a man is not declared righteous by works of law, if not through
the faith of Jesus Christ, also we in Christ Jesus did believe, that we might be
declared righteous by the faith of Christ, and not by works of law, wherefore declared righteous by works of law shall be no flesh.'
Php 3:9 not having my righteousness, which is of law, but that which is
through faith of Christ--the righteousness that is of God by the faith,
It is CHRIST'S faith, THE FAITH OF CHRIST, not our faith that justifies us. It is CHRIST'S faithfulness in going to the cross and dying for our sins that justifies us before God.
Yes, of course. Here the scriptures are speaking of being imputed (credited) with Righteousness, but it is not speaking of our justification.
Again, we're speaking of imputed righteousness in those verses, not Justification. You keep confusing the two terms and ideas. This is IMO, why you don't really understand the Gospel.
You've selected a translation that suits your doctrinal position here. It's actually the FAITH
OF CHRIST. This is a translational problem and most likely the reason most don't understand what is being said. Try and get a literal bible translation of the scriptures. The KJV, the LITV or Young's YLT would be helpful.
Agreed, but this does not JUSTIFY the person before God.
Again, the faith spoken of here is the FAITH OF JESUS.
Again, it's the faith
OF Christ being spoken of. Christ's faithfulness in dying for our sins allows anyone to approach God in confidence. We come to God on Christ's merits, not ours.
It's not our righteousness through obedience that brings us justification or imputed righteousness. It is the work of Christ ALONE.
Your words and interpretations are not the Gospel Verna. I'm happy to tell you that.
Thank-You, and to you also!
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I agree with you, but the fact that the self must die is no different than the death of the ego, it is not a physical (or true) death.
