As a gay person, I've notice that many christians don't know what homosexuality even IS! (dinosaur, baptism)

[Reverend1111]

Originally Posted by Radrook

In other words this person creates his god in accordance with his own special needful specifications. Of course this requires that his god have absolutely no moral demands for his worshipers. Which conveniently means, of course, that this god's worshipers are allowed to amorally and sinfully boogy to their hearts' content without nary a care in the world. Sound like any god the Bible might describe? Hmmmmmm? Ummmm, you know-like Satan the Devil perhaps?


Exodus 20:1-15 ESV
And God spoke all these words, saying, “I am the Lord your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of slavery. “You shall have no other gods before me.

And they all end up being the biggest sinners of all. Do this and don't do that, never looking in the mirror.

[twin.spin]

Originally Posted by Fiyero

Sigh. Homosexual was not added to Corinthians until 1958 A.D. For the entire Reformation until 1958, that word was universally accepted to mean Masturbation. A meaning that still exists in many Greek dictionaries today.

However, Paul's contemporaries, said it referred to temple prostitutes.

Around 35 A.D., the Jewish philosopher Philo (a contemporary of Paul’s) held that arsenokoites referred to shrine prostitution (Philo, The Special Laws, III, VII, 40-42).

History of Arsenokoites - Bible Abuse Directed at Homosexuals

Corinthians and Timothy - Bible Abuse Directed at Homosexuals

Gee, who do you think understood Paul's meaning better. Those who lived at the same time he did and heard the word being used at the time Paul invented it. Or a fundamentalist Christian translator who decided to change the long standing meanings in 1958 A.D. to improve Bible sales?

It's amazing how many "Christians" know nothing about scripture. Ignorance is bliss I guess.

Sigh all you want ....

As far as your reference links, big deal ....Satan has his stooges too.

God says it "P E R V E R S I O N" Jude 1:7 .... Romans 1:27

[Fiyero]

Originally Posted by twin.spin

Sigh all you want ....

As far as your reference links, big deal ....Satan has his stooges too.

God says it "P E R V E R S I O N" Jude 1:7 .... Romans 1:27

So intellectual dishonesty, and believing lies is perfectly fine with you so long as it gives you justification for your bigotry. Got it.

[twin.spin]

Originally Posted by Fiyero

So intellectual dishonesty, and believing lies is perfectly fine with you so long as it gives you justification for your bigotry. Got it.

Typical reaction. That is why God calls sexual immorality idolatrous. Colossians 3:5


It'a amazing how when God says don't be decieved...the sexually immoral will not go to heaven, the sexually immoral throw a fit.
No, instead heeding it the call to live, the true haters spew the bigotry against the Truth.

[I LOVE NORTH CAROLINA]

Originally Posted by twin.spin

Typical reaction. That is why God calls sexual immorality idolatrous. Colossians 3:5


It'a amazing how when God says don't be decieved...the sexually immoral will not go to heaven, the sexually immoral throw a fit.
No, instead heeding it the call to live, the true haters spew the bigotry against the Truth.

The Bible is very clear about this.

[solytaire]

Homosexuality is a an ideology unto itself, and is as much of a choice as any other religion.. It has little to do with sex itself. Its merely another religion that radiates from the singular notion that sexuality is not only inborn, but unchangeable by any efforts. Their god is essentially themselves. I think thats why Christians and Islamic worshipers dislike homosexuals: One cant be what gays consider a "true" homosexual AND be a devout follower of those religions; as to do so is to imply that God is NOT all powerful. (Gays often believe absolutely nothing, including God can change them -- this is essentially saying that their being is stronger than the will of God which flies in the face of Christianity, and probably Islam too).

Heterosexuality is a separate spiritual umbrella under which several other religions choose to operate, including both Christianity and Islam that instills the belief that God IS all powerful.

Zoophiles, pedophile, and necrophilia fetishes, along with the heterosexual and homosexual fetishes are all chosen ideologies, but homosexuality and heterosexuality are the only fetishes that are able to be practiced lawfully in the U.S.

[Radrook]

And they all end up being the biggest sinners of all. Do this and don't do that, never looking in the mirror.

That is their problem, whoever they are. My problem and yours is how we stand before God. Or are you conveniently suggesting that bad examples should mimicked?


Romans 2
New American Standard Bible
6 who WILL RENDER TO EACH PERSON ACCORDING TO HIS DEEDS 7 to those who by perseverance in doing good seek for glory and honor and immortality, eternal life; 8 but to those who are selfishly ambitious and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness, wrath and indignation. 9 There will be tribulation and distress for every soul of man who does evil,....

[Jerwade]

Originally Posted by Radrook

In other words this person creates his god in accordance with his own special needful specifications. Of course this requires that his god have absolutely no moral demands for his worshipers. Which conveniently means, of course, that this god's worshipers are allowed to amorally and sinfully boogy to their hearts' content without nary a care in the world. Sound like any god the Bible might describe? Hmmmmmm? Ummmm, you know-like Satan the Devil perhaps?


Exodus 20:1-15 ESV
And God spoke all these words, saying, “I am the Lord your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of slavery." You shall have no other gods before me.

Like the god of this world called man, he who has dominion.

[Radrook]

Jesus Christ never had a word to say about homosexual people. I am a Christian not a "Paulian"
If Jesus thought that was important he would have said something, don't you think?

Jesus didn't have a word to say about pedophiles, masochists, rapists, sadists, and wife beaters either. Does that mean that he considered those things unimportant? Actually, after his ressurection Jesus sent a Revelation to John in which condemns sexual immorality.


Revelation:
1."The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to show unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John."


Revelation 22:15 >>
Outside are the dogs, those who practice magic arts, the sexually immoral, the murderers, the idolaters and everyone who loves and practices falsehood.
NIV (©1984)



BTW
After Jesus was resurrected and glorifed he personally appointed Paul as an Apostle. So rejecting him doesn't please our Lord in the least! Thats why when the apostle Paul under divine inspiuration says the folowing:

1 Corinthians 6:9 (New International Version 1984)
9 Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders....




We should listen.

[Reverend1111]

Originally Posted by Radrook

That is their problem, whoever they are. My problem and yours is how we stand before God. Or are you conveniently suggesting that bad examples should mimicked?


Romans 2
New American Standard Bible
6 who WILL RENDER TO EACH PERSON ACCORDING TO HIS DEEDS 7 to those who by perseverance in doing good seek for glory and honor and immortality, eternal life; 8 but to those who are selfishly ambitious and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness, wrath and indignation. 9 There will be tribulation and distress for every soul of man who does evil,....

We each reap what we sow. Anything that is not done with Love will have a price tag attached. We learn from bad examples, we don't mimic them. That's why I don't read the bible. Too many bad examples and not enough Love. You can find the Love if you know where to look but the rest just needs to be removed altogether.