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Old 11-06-2010, 07:27 PM
 
Location: Seattle, Wa
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Sooner or later there will be no more death or suffering for anyone.

SALVATION OUT OF THE LAKE OF FIRE WHICH IS THE SECOND DEATH
L. Ray Smith - The Lake of Fire - Part 1
L. Ray Smith - Lake of Fire - part 2
L. Ray Smith - Lake of Fire - Part 3
L. Ray Smith - Lake of Fire part 4
The scriptures do not teach that physical death or suffering will cease. The Lake of Fire is covenantal, does not pertain to those outside of covenantal status.

 
Old 11-06-2010, 07:36 PM
 
Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
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Lightbulb All mankind is going to be saved

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The scriptures do not teach that physical death or suffering will cease. The Lake of Fire is covenantal, does not pertain to those outside of covenantal status.
According to the Bible, all mankind is going to be saved.

A great sixteen chapter introductory series to ultimate reconciliation.
J. Preston Eby does a thorough job covering many aspects of the topic.
Fundamental reading for any person interested in studying universalism from a solid biblical perspective.
Highly Recommended!
Kingdom Bible Studies: J. Preston Eby, Kingdom of God; Saviour of The World

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Old 11-06-2010, 07:53 PM
 
Location: Seattle, Wa
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According to the Bible, all mankind is going to be saved.

A great sixteen chapter introductory series to ultimate reconciliation.
J. Preston Eby does a thorough job covering many aspects of the topic.
Fundamental reading for any person interested in studying universalism from a solid biblical perspective.
Highly Recommended!
Kingdom Bible Studies: J. Preston Eby, Kingdom of God; Saviour of The World
According to the Bible it does not say that....you sure do love your doctrines of men!
 
Old 11-06-2010, 08:01 PM
 
Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
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Default Absolute assurance in jesus christ

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you sure do love your doctrines of men!
And of course, that is what we think of your doctrine.

Our doctrine sees that the Bible teaches that we can have ABSOLUTE ASSURANCE that God is going to save everyone.
absolute assurance in jesus christ

Last edited by rodgertutt; 11-06-2010 at 08:02 PM.. Reason: correction
 
Old 11-10-2010, 06:06 AM
 
Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
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Lightbulb Some folk might be glad to know

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You didn't read the study Eusebius, did you? (sigh) When you do, let's talk. Okay? Destroyed means destroyed.

I'd love for someone to actually read it. But thanks anyway.
Some folk might be glad to know about a different point of view.
I sure was!!

Is the Doctrine of Limited Punishment, Terminated by Destruction True?
The Doctrine of Limited Punishment, Terminated by Destruction.
 
Old 11-10-2010, 06:27 AM
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Exo 32:31 And Moses turneth back unto Jehovah, and saith, `Oh this people hath sinned a great sin, that they make to themselves a god of gold;
Exo 32:32 and now, if Thou takest away their sin--and if not--blot me, I pray thee, out of Thy book which Thou hast written.'

Moses would have rather been blotted out of the Book of Life if Annihilationism and Eternal Torment were true since in both of those doctrines God doesn't "takest away their sin".
 
Old 11-10-2010, 06:27 AM
 
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Some folk might be glad to know about a different point of view.
I sure was!!

Is the Doctrine of Limited Punishment, Terminated by Destruction True?
The Doctrine of Limited Punishment, Terminated by Destruction.
Why would you look at a POV from a biased website, instead of looking at it from someone who actually believes this way. Try this link out:

The Destruction of the Finally Impenitent* by Clark H
 
Old 11-10-2010, 06:43 AM
 
Location: SC Foothills
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Exo 32:31 And Moses turneth back unto Jehovah, and saith, `Oh this people hath sinned a great sin, that they make to themselves a god of gold;
Exo 32:32 and now, if Thou takest away their sin--and if not--blot me, I pray thee, out of Thy book which Thou hast written.'

Moses would have rather been blotted out of the Book of Life if Annihilationism and Eternal Torment were true since in both of those doctrines God doesn't "takest away their sin".
Amen!! Why is this so hard for folks to understand??
 
Old 11-10-2010, 06:45 AM
 
Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
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Question Why trade sirlion steak for hamburger?

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Why would you look at a POV from a biased website, instead of looking at it from someone who actually believes this way. Try this link out:
First of all, I don't believe there is such a thing as an "unbiased" website.

For me trying that link out would be like trading sirloin stake for hamburger.

In his exposition explaining why he changed from believing the Bible teaches annihilation to believeing that the Bible teaches universal salvation, Gary Amirault wrote
"When it comes to the final destination of the wicked, or unrighteous, Christians over the past two millenniums have divided themselves into three beliefs: 1. Eternal Torment, 2. Eternal Death (Annihilationism), and 3. Salvation of the whole world through Jesus Christ. Each of these views can be supported with Scriptures. Having been in all three groups, I know that there are sincere Bible centered believers in all of them. Obviously, all three cannot be true. Two of them have to be false."

Gary's entire exposition can be read here
Eternal Death (Conditional Mortality, Annihilation): One Step Out of Hell; One Step Short of Glory

I'll stick with sirloin steak thank you.

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Old 11-10-2010, 12:40 PM
 
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Originally Posted by rodgertutt View Post
First of all, I don't believe there is such a thing as an "unbiased" website.

For me trying that link out would be like trading sirloin stake for hamburger.

In his exposition explaining why he changed from believing the Bible teaches annihilation to believeing that the Bible teaches universal salvation, Gary Amirault wrote
"When it comes to the final destination of the wicked, or unrighteous, Christians over the past two millenniums have divided themselves into three beliefs: 1. Eternal Torment, 2. Eternal Death (Annihilationism), and 3. Salvation of the whole world through Jesus Christ. Each of these views can be supported with Scriptures. Having been in all three groups, I know that there are sincere Bible centered believers in all of them. Obviously, all three cannot be true. Two of them have to be false."

Gary's entire exposition can be read here
Eternal Death (Conditional Mortality, Annihilation): One Step Out of Hell; One Step Short of Glory

I'll stick with sirloin steak thank you.
Ok, you stick with the steak, and I will stick with the Bread from heaven.
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