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Unless you can claim that you aree 100% correct in everything you say, then if what you say is true, your in the same boat as me.
I don't claim that either....but, I do claim apokastasis is.
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You really can't get around the fact that we are both in the body of Christ, and Christ trumps us both, welcome neighbor.
In that I agree....Paul's command isn't about who is a heretic or not, it is about errors....heresies/αἱρέσεις/tenets...that lay within it....and which one...is approved by God. The Body of Christ unites and divides...but what has remained constant?
This is a clear cut case of a Universalists rinsing the words that one has said to promote their paradigm
So we have a theology (FPCC) "based on the Bible" that proves that God will poof most of the human race out of existence.
versus
A theology (UR) "based on the Bible" whose Savior will eventually transform the existence of evil into something better for everyone than if evil had not existed in the first place.
THE OUTCOME OF INFINITE GRACE – Dr. Loyal Hurley (NOT TENTMAKER)
http://www.gtft.org/Library/miscellaneous/TheOutcomeOfInfiniteGrace.htm (broken link)
And of course both of us are very sure that we are believing the truth, and both of us will no doubt die believing like we do now.
So be it.
Interested readers will choose which one they think glorifies God the most.
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So we have a theology (FPCC) "based on the Bible" that proves that God will poof most of the human race out of existence.
versus
A theology (UR) "based on the Bible" whose Savior will eventually transform the existence of evil into something better for everyone than if evil had not existed in the first place.
And of course both of us are very sure that we are believing the truth, and both of us will no doubt die believing like we do now.
So be it.
Interested readers will choose which one they think glorifies God the most.
You have been corrected rodgertutt on your inability to interpret Paul's and let alone the simplistic English formatting of my words..., yet you still spam the forum with your links over and over again...why not start a specific thread where you can hoist your podium up and present your teachers?
why not start a specific thread where you can hoist your podium up and present your teachers?
Why not hoist my teachers up on my own thread, you ask?
Because I want people on this "two option" thread (ET and AN) to know that there is a third option UR, just like you want people on this "two option" thread to know there is yet a fourth option FPCC.
I think I (the third option guy) belong on this thread just as much as you (the fourth option guy) do.
So here I go, hoisting away. All of these works can be read in their entirety on line.
You assume too much and take against a sister in Christ. Her and I are divides apart on the timing of eschatology, but guess what Mr. Hazelwood... the themes are identical. There is always common ground amongst those who God is in approval with. That's how we grow.
For there must be also heresies among you, that they which are approved may be made manifest among you.
Unfortunately, your theology, at least from what I have seen here and at Tentmaker, falls into the bolded word....precisely why Verna and I, fall into the underlined of Paul's command.
Precisely why myself, and select futurists on this site, band together, even Mike55. Because WE, as a body in Christ, are approved, and none of you will ever rest here, as long as we are here.
Talk about a City Data fulfillment of scripture!
Excellant post Ken...I couldn't have said it better.
And of course we URs believe that verse is referring to your non-UR doctrines.
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WE, as a body in Christ, are approved, and none of you URs will ever rest here, as long as we are here.
Approved? By who?
We URs have no desire to "rest" here.
We want a foil like you non URs as a contrast to show up the difference between our theologies so people can choose what they think most glorifies God.
God letting part of humanity suffer forever or cease to exist
And of course we URs believe that verse is referring to your non-UR doctrines.
Approved? By who?
Themselves, of course
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THE OUTCOME OF INFINITE GRACE – Dr. Loyal Hurley
Why not hoist my teachers up on my own thread?
Choose which theology most glorifies god
