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Old 11-06-2010, 10:51 AM
 
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Here is what i find so puzzling: Ezekiel 28:15 Some texts use "perfect". Doesn't that sound like a contradiction of sorts? If one is perfect, how can wickedness be found in them? And not just one (Lucifer) but billions along with him! And if, per Jesus' words we will be "like" the angels (not similar to) then we will have the exact same attributes they do, including the ability to choose good or evil. Makes me think that we are misinterpreting the scriptures somehow regarding fallen angels.
There's a difference between being "perfect" and being "divine." Adam and Eve were perfect before their fall. This perfection can be restored in our souls, but it's a tough row to hoe because of earthly temptations that are always at our beck and call.

Being "divine," which is what angels are... means that they have the substance of God in their souls completely... this is His Essence, or divinity... and once this is received and it flourishes and we receive it in abundance to a sufficient degree, then we become "at-one" with God and our sins are removed never to return again. The beauty of receiving this Love is that we don't even have to think about what we need to do to change our ways... it happens little by little and we're not even aware of it until we think back and say, well, I remember how I used to be and I'm not that way any more... thank you, God for your Love and the privilege of receiving it!
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Old 11-06-2010, 10:56 AM
 
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Matthew 22:30 seems to suggest so, incredible as it might sound.



But the angels obviously have a sin nature or how did satan and one-third of the angels sin and fall with him?
In a word: No. Like attracts like. I don't believe God actually puts people in Hell or Heaven. People put themselves there based on their state of consciousness. It wouldn't be Heaven if the people there were of the low state of consciousness that we're in today.
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Old 11-06-2010, 04:34 PM
 
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In a word: No. Like attracts like. I don't believe God actually puts people in Hell or Heaven. People put themselves there based on their state of consciousness. It wouldn't be Heaven if the people there were of the low state of consciousness that we're in today.
Huh?

I think----I'm not sure, but I think the topic was will we have a sin nature in heaven.
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