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I think alcohol in moderation is fine.of course don't drink and drive.and if you tend to treat other ppl like garbage after a few drinks,then you probably shouldn't drink at all (JMO)..as far as alcoholics go, I certainly hope they get help.
I'm just curious as to what others think about this. I see no problem with it myself but where I live there are a lot of Southern Baptists and they think that drinking is a sin, the worst kind of sin. However, they're a bunch of hypocrites that secretly drink and then go to church acting like they're holier than thou so what say you?
I know for a fact that some of these southern Baptists drink so is it better to be open about it or pretend that you abhor it and do it in secrecy? The hypocrisy is overwhelming. Some will say it's the sin of getting drunk and not the act of drinking itself. That's what I say....but what if I'm drunk right now? As long as I behave myself is that ok?
Didn't Jesus turn water into wine? I guess He was a big sinner.
Refer to: "Know thy self." If you can't stop at a glass or two, then don't drink. If you can, enjoy.
The belief that alcohol in any quantity or for any reason is sinful, is absolutely un-Christian.
I'm just curious as to what others think about this. I see no problem with it myself but where I live there are a lot of Southern Baptists and they think that drinking is a sin, the worst kind of sin. However, they're a bunch of hypocrites that secretly drink and then go to church acting like they're holier than thou so what say you?
I know for a fact that some of these southern Baptists drink so is it better to be open about it or pretend that you abhor it and do it in secrecy? The hypocrisy is overwhelming. Some will say it's the sin of getting drunk and not the act of drinking itself. That's what I say....but what if I'm drunk right now? As long as I behave myself is that ok?
Sin is based on our state of mind, Ilene . . . so you can answer your own question. If they drink but engage in hypocritical actions (a deceptive state of mind) . . . which is the sin . . . drinking or their state of mind? If they drink and lose control of their mind (drunkeness) . . . which is the sin . . . drinking or their state of mind?
The belief that alcohol in any quantity or for any reason is sinful, is absolutely un-Christian.
That's true. The idea that any and all consumption of alcohol is sinful, is "Churchianity", not Christianity. I agree with the above posts about moderation being key...a drink a day probably won't hurt most adult people. (except alcoholics, of course)
I'm just curious as to what others think about this. I see no problem with it myself but where I live there are a lot of Southern Baptists and they think that drinking is a sin, the worst kind of sin. However, they're a bunch of hypocrites that secretly drink and then go to church acting like they're holier than thou so what say you?
I know for a fact that some of these southern Baptists drink so is it better to be open about it or pretend that you abhor it and do it in secrecy? The hypocrisy is overwhelming. Some will say it's the sin of getting drunk and not the act of drinking itself. That's what I say....but what if I'm drunk right now? As long as I behave myself is that ok?
My Lord! I'm so excessively glad to no longer subscribe to organized religion. This was exactly one of my first distasteful church related experiences.
Being one of the few married, full time professional, non-college students in a now defunct campus church, I began to enjoy an occasional glass of wine with meals during my days off. My wife, while she did not partake with me, was not opposed to my inhabitual indulgence. In conversation, she once shared my wine consumption with another so called sister, whom shared it with another, whom shared it with the pastor's wife, whom shared it with her husband, the senior pastor.
After a Sunday church service, senior pastorModerator cut: personal approached me. The first thing out of his mouth. . ."I need to speak with you about your drinking problem!" I recall my sarcastic smile as I allowed him to proceed with his accusation. Upon finishing, I described how my wine consumption did not equate to a drinking problem. His response. . ."We do not tolerate alcohol consumption in this congregation." He proceeded to tell me that I should consider feeding my spiritual needs elsewhere. My response, "let me pray about that."
I was henceforth considered a persona non grata. But, I remained a member of this congregation for many years thereafter. Moderator cut: delete I left on my own terms, when I was good and ready to leave.
Shortly after leaving, my family and I were visited by a married couple who were budding within the church's hierarchy. I will never forget this. . .the husband and I went to my garage, while the wives chatted in the kitchen. He finally came around and asked me point blank why we left that church. I explained pastorModerator cut: delete opposition to wine consumption. His eyes got about as large as two half dollar coins. He was completely baffled by my statement. He went on to describe how he would occasionally get together with the co-pastor for mixed drinks. And. . ."the men's college frat house has keg parties all the time!"
Moral of the story. . .Christian churches in the USA are mostly built upon a pious heap of BS which few attempt to live by. Most people in churches believe it their duty to live above their common human inclinations. The result. . .hyper-hypochrisy. Seen it. Lived it. Live better without it!
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Reason: I deleted the names in your post/for your own protection do not name names OK?
I'm just curious as to what others think about this. I see no problem with it myself but where I live there are a lot of Southern Baptists and they think that drinking is a sin, the worst kind of sin. However, they're a bunch of hypocrites that secretly drink and then go to church acting like they're holier than thou so what say you?
I know for a fact that some of these southern Baptists drink so is it better to be open about it or pretend that you abhor it and do it in secrecy? The hypocrisy is overwhelming. Some will say it's the sin of getting drunk and not the act of drinking itself. That's what I say....but what if I'm drunk right now? As long as I behave myself is that ok?
Alcohol itself is not the problem. Drunkedness is a problem.
Drink in moderation. My church does not teach to not drink, and I do not think I have been to a church who preach to not drink at all. My pastor told me he personally chooses to not drink because he does not want people to take his drinking as an encoragement to drink in excess. I see his point, because he deals with a lot of ex-alcoholics.
I drink wine and beer, but gave up on the hard stuff.
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