The "Second" Death?? (beliefs, Holy Spirit, mystic, worship)

[modeerf]

Originally Posted by ChristyGrl

Yes I do...but you are equating "physical" death with that of the "physical body"...that is not what Jesus was teaching...for the "physical body" is not who we truly are. Who we truly are NEVER DIES.

Physical death... Physical body... there is no difference.

The teachings of Translation (Transfiguration) are part of what Jesus taught.

This mortal puts on immortality. The last enemy to be overcome is death.

God created this world without death.

Satan is the author of death. God allowed it because it would be utterly unbearable to continue down the path of sin, and it's automatic sufferance.

When we sin, we die.

When we overcome the flesh, the sinful nature, as our Saviour did, then we live. That is what Life Everlasting means. Life with no end.

Jesus said, NO one takes my life from me, i lay it down, and i take it up.

The things He did we can and shall do.... and more. Because He is with the Father.

Amen.

[modeerf]

Originally Posted by savedbysovereigngrace

You see, The Christ I serve, took away sin for His People, they don't have do anything, Christ did it for them.

Jn 1:29

29The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world.

Dan 12:


24Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.

We, God's People, rest in His work..

He takes away the repentant sinner, the one that turns away from sin. Not one that sins thinking that he is forgiven. That would be lunacy. And no God i serve would ever play such Carnival games.
The Magic prayer Christian will be sorely disappointed.

His words will ring out... BE GONE FROM ME, I NEVER KNEW YOU....YE WHO WORKETH INIQUITY...

King James Bible Revelation 20:13
And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.

[Jerwade]

Originally Posted by Finn_Jarber

Second death is a safe harbor? Sigh....

Is that a sigh of disappointment?

How do you throw a grave, a hole in the ground, anywhere?

There will be no need for a grave when death is abolished.
I know this is a stupid question, but how do you throw death and a flame into another death and flame?

Have you ever tried to pick up a hole?

You do make me laugh at times.
Have you ever tried to grasp fire with your bare hands? LOL

[Finn_Jarber]

Originally Posted by Jerwade

Is that a sigh of disappointment?

I sigh when I see people who have been told the truth, but still say things like "2nd death is a safe heaven".

[Jerwade]

Originally Posted by Jerwade

Is that a sigh of disappointment?

Originally Posted by Finn_Jarber

I sigh when I see people who have been told the truth, but still say things like "2nd death is a safe heaven".

I can understand that from the point of where people believe they have been seated, but remember to:

"Behold the Lamb of God, who takes away the sin of humanity."

In His love and mine, peace be with you.

[sciotamicks]

Jude 1:12 Twice dead--First when they cast their leaves in autumn, and seem during winter dead, but revive again in spring; secondly, when they are "plucked up by the roots." So these apostates, once dead in unbelief, and then by profession and baptism raised from the death of sin to the life of righteousness, but now having become dead again by apostasy, and so hopelessly dead. There is a climax. Not only without leaves, like trees in late autumn, but without fruit: not only so, but dead twice; and to crown all, "plucked up by the roots. - Jamieson, Fausset & Brown

Matt 3:10 And now also the axe is laid unto the root of the trees: therefore every tree which bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.

[twin.spin]

Originally Posted by Jerwade

I know this is a stupid question, but how do you throw death and a flame into another death and flame?
You do make me laugh at times.
Have you ever tried to grasp fire with your bare hands? LOL

It does not surprise me that you find it funny.

How it's God is going to do it..."by the the majesty of his power" 2 Thessalonians 1:9



People who go around who have form of godliness but deny it's power always seem to find it convenient to deny "with God all things are possible.” By their fruit we will know them, they are:

• lovers of themselves,
• lovers of money,
• boastful,
• proud,
• abusive,
• disobedient to their parents,
• ungrateful,
• unholy,
• without love,
• unforgiving,
• slanderous,
• without self-control,
• brutal,
• not lovers of the good,
• treacherous,
• rash,
• conceited,
• lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God

[MysticPhD]

Originally Posted by twin.spin

It does not surprise me that you find it funny.
How it's God is going to do it..."by the the majesty of his power" 2 Thessalonians 1:9
People who go around who have form of godliness but deny it's power always seem to find it convenient to deny "with God all things are possible.”

You should know better than to try to reason with those who justify EVERYTHING by God's ability to do ANYTHING, Jerwade.

[Ironmaw1776]

Originally Posted by Finn_Jarber

Admit? Where did I say Hades is grave? No one said anything about a grave.

Then what do you believe Hades is?

[Finn_Jarber]

Originally Posted by Ironmaw1776

Then what do you believe Hades is?

But it has been explained so many times before. You UR people never tire talking about the topic of hell. Sigh..... If you read the story of the rich man ans lazarus, you might get some idea. Also, Jesus went to Hades after he died on the cross Acts 2:27. Surely you do not think he tunneled his way into someone's grave. Hades is a temporary place of torment for the unbelievers.