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Old 01-08-2011, 11:25 PM
 
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Paul only knew this because he read it in Enoch.
Right - being caught up into the 3rd heaven and hearing unspeakable things was not enough, right?

The obsession with Enoch is very telling. It's where all the fun alien/human/angel stuff and cool stories about spirits consciously burning in beautiful fiery torture is found.
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Old 01-10-2011, 01:26 PM
 
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[quote=firstborn888;17325015]Right - being caught up into the 3rd heaven and hearing unspeakable things was not enough, right?
Unlawful for Paul to speak words were heard by him in Paradise. Why? -because Paul, and any other called believer after Jesus ascended is not allowed to reveal new things that were not written, already. John's Revelation of Jesus Christ is of the things Enoch saw, hidden, and wrote of which are now revealed by Jesus Christ, through John, but there are no more new, never written of before things that any man can claim is a new revelation of new things never written before, as Jesus is the last Word from the Father to mankind.



The obsession with Enoch is very telling. It's where all the fun alien/human/angel stuff and cool stories about spirits consciously burning in beautiful fiery torture is found.
There are no aliens in Enoch, and for you to make such a claim is slanderous. Moses says the same, in Genesis 6:2, also, as Enoch told about the fallen sons of God/ben Elohym who took/laqach wives of daughters of Adam/Bath Adam, and begot nephillim/giants in the earth through them. Moses also states that more did the same sin of fornication after the flood, and begot giants/nephillim on the earth, as the chained ones did before the flood. Goliath was of the nephillim line after the flood, being descended of Anak -the Anakim.
Why don't you read the Bible for yourself to see what is written there about these things, rather than to just speak in ignorance of what is written?

The Lake of Fire is revealed in Enoch, foundationally, as a warning to those for whom it was not made, to avoid, by
believing [for personal redemption] in the Name of the Son of Man, who was to come, and is come, to be our redeemer/Kinsman; and Jesus carries the revelation of Enoch through, in His Gospel and in the Revelation of Himself given to John, so your attack on the credibility of Enoch on that count is an attack on the Words of Jesus Christ, who says the same about the
Lake of Fire -the Abyss- and even more, than Enoch did.
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