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Old 01-08-2011, 11:59 AM
 
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Originally Posted by twin.spin View Post
If you agree to be civil...I will answer.

The irony for me is that
  • Jesus continually referred to the written word never claimed them to be in error.
  • The Apostles claimed that what they were writing was also scripture.
  • The last surviving Apostle was told to write down these words for they are true (Rev)
  • Jesus guarantees that scripture will stay with us
The irony for me is the opinion of your irony of the Bible.
Agreed...

 
Old 01-08-2011, 12:08 PM
 
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Wow, you mean Jesus was actually running around in the OT days???
No . . . you and the other literal unquestioning followers of ancient ignorance about the nature of God are the ones ignoring and missing the entire point of Jesus Christ and His Good News.
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...So, god let all the Christians for the last 2000 years believe a lie?...Do you mean that the Christians closest to Christ misunderstood Him, but 2000 years later, our MODERN society understands better than they did???...WOW!!!...Maybe it is our MODERN misunderstanding of what they actually meant...
I am astounded by how many Christians do not seem to understand what DOMINION over the earth means as the express desire of God's will!! God "lets" whatever we will (subject to reaping what we sow) . . . that is the whole point of spiritual maturation. Children must mature and develop their own self-control and understanding . . . not robotically follow ancient rules born of ancient ignorance. The whole of the "training wheel laws" is subsumed in "love God and each other" . . . because by incorporating "ALL unloving" acts it covers far more territory than ten.
 
Old 01-08-2011, 12:10 PM
 
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the suppression of biblical books such as the teachings of Mary of Magdalene, whom Jesus reportedly loved in a special way, has paved the way for today's full fledge chauvisnism. it's sick! i want nothing to do with this God in particular that you admire...i've got a better one.
How does what you said even remotely respond to what i said?...I was talking about those that were in the first century after His death and resurrection as opposed to us 2000 years later...the book of Mary is a gnostic gospel...i've read most of the gnostic works and where they had their origins...For instance, Peter walked with christ and was a disciple and if Christ sent him out to spread the Gospel don't you think Christ trusted him to tell the Truth?...Christ knew him and his future and would not have placed him in such an impotant position if He though he was going to screw it up...same with all the other apostles...
 
Old 01-08-2011, 12:19 PM
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I suspect it may be best if I just read this one and not take an active part.
I came to the same conclusion.
 
Old 01-08-2011, 12:32 PM
 
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Sounds like Easley.
I've lived in Greenville, SC, it was in '92...I think that was the time MC Hammer was there and passed out on the stage and everybody thought he had AIDS...I also worked for Foothills Roofing out of Easley, SC...specifically on the roof of Stone Manufacturing...
 
Old 01-08-2011, 12:35 PM
 
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How does what you said even remotely respond to what i said?...I was talking about those that were in the first century after His death and resurrection as opposed to us 2000 years later...the book of Mary is a gnostic gospel...i've read most of the gnostic works and where they had their origins...For instance, Peter walked with christ and was a disciple and if Christ sent him out to spread the Gospel don't you think Christ trusted him to tell the Truth?...Christ knew him and his future and would not have placed him in such an impotant position if He though he was going to screw it up...same with all the other apostles...
it all starts with the basics.
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Women think emotionally...I believe that is the reason why the scriptures state that a preacher must be the husband of one wife indicating that men are to be preachers and not women...women can be deaconesses or elderesses but not preachers...
have a good day.
 
Old 01-08-2011, 12:38 PM
 
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For those of you who say that an Atheist does not have the love Christ in them.How do you know?What are you judging them by?

If a stranger offers you something to eat when you are hungry, a ride to the doctor when you have no car, a kidney for yourself when you need it, a bone marrow transplant for your child. Do you KNOW if he is Christian, Atheist, Muslim, Catholic, Baptist or anyone who believes differently than you do that only those you THINK have Christs love in them do these things.

Christ's love is within all of us..He makes Himself known through whom He pleases. All of us. We are all his creation. Not one of us holds a monopoly on what love is or who is allowed to show the love of Christ that is implanted in all of us from the beginning.
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Old 01-08-2011, 12:49 PM
 
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I suspect it may be best if I just read this one and not take an active part.
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Originally Posted by NCN
I came to the same conclusion.
June's not sure what "conclusion" she should come to as this thread has taken more twists and turns than she ever expected. She's wondering if she shouldn't have gone to Paris, instead! --She certainly didn't expect that an atheist's visit to the Bible Belt would result in twenty pages, but she is grateful to all of those who posted a response.

In some strange sense, given the disagreeing that has transpired herein, June can't help but think that it did, in fact, answer the question she initially proposed. It would appear to June that no matter where one is, there is little to be agreed upon within the realms of "Christianity." June clearly didn't need to leave home to realize that; she just hadn't experienced it in "real life" in quite the manner in which she did down south. To disagree (in June's opinion) is not a bad thing. What is interesting is to see the ways in which Christians disagree, and as adamanetly so! --Be it here, on this forum, or in different parts of the country. Sometimes this leaves June wondering just what all Christians DO agree about within their religious faith and beliefs...

June liked the south. Even in winter, it appeared very lovely, and she appreciated much of her experience while down there. It is, indeed, a culture vastly different from her life as lived here in the northeast. She can't help but wonder though, at the end of the day, whether that Pastor's yelling at the end of the service wasn't somehow analogous to the empassioned debating and extent to which everyone seems to disagree here on this forum. The same degree or amount of passion would seem to exist, so if nothing else, she is now better able to understand and put into context the Pastor's words and actions....

So what June's getting at here is that you all did, in fact, in the end lead June to a far better understanding of an experience that she initially found quite curious. She has also found that she has a far greater understanding on a much different level now than she did prior to her visit to the south. --Yet what will forever confound her are the vast differences and variances of a religion built and/or based on love and unity. On the one hand, even to the likes of "just June" it would appear to be so easy, yet outside influences would appear to make it far from being so. All in all, June can only say that she finds the whole entire issue fascinating.

--That, along with the fact that June can, and does love!

(June had to throw that one in, Robin, not out of unkindness, but simply because it is the truth!) -June loves you too, Robin!


Take gentle vast differences care....
 
Old 01-08-2011, 12:50 PM
 
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it all starts with the basics.


have a good day.
What ever...
 
Old 01-08-2011, 12:52 PM
 
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For those of you who say that an Atheist does not have the love Christ in them.How do you know?What are you judging them by?

If a stranger offers you something to eat when you are hungry, a ride to the doctor when you have no car, a kidney for yourself when you need it, a bone marrow transplant for your child. Do you KNOW if he is Christian, Atheist, Muslim, Catholic, Baptist or anyone who believes differently than you do.
Miss Blue you are genius. worth your salt in gold i tell you!
you are welcome to our family's supper table anytime. Amen
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