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Old 01-07-2011, 05:50 PM
Location: New York City
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Originally Posted by scgraham View Post
Dead birds, fish and crabs could be yet more fearful signs from Heaven. These things are happening in multiple countries around the world. The skeptics sure do have a lot of dismissing to do nowadays; there's the worldwide financial meltdown, earthquakes, hurricanes, floods, famine and so forth. The Book of Revelation is becoming more and more of a reality. People's mocking is looking more and more foolish as more and more calamities fall on mankind.

Revelation 8
[7] The first angel sounded, and there followed hail and fire mingled with blood, and they were cast upon the earth: and the third part of trees was burnt up, and all green grass was burnt up.
[8] And the second angel sounded, and as it were a great mountain burning with fire was cast into the sea: and the third part of the sea became blood;
[9] And the third part of the creatures which were in the sea, and had life, died; and the third part of the ships were destroyed.

The day of reckoning is at hand, and the dead birds, fish and crabs could be yet more fearful signs from Heaven.
I was wondering when you or Betsey was going to start a thread on this topic. You took a little too long.

Old 01-07-2011, 05:51 PM
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Originally Posted by InsaneInDaMembrane View Post
You ever saw my thread on this topic? Peter believed (according to the writer of Acts) that HIS generation was the generation Joel was speaking about. Where does that put YOUR generation? Clearly Peter was not thinking about you figuring the buck stopped with his generation.
That depends upon how you read what peter wrote and what version you are reading.
Old 01-07-2011, 06:42 PM
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considering that God gave man dominion over the earth,and that includes the animal kingdom,I'd say it's something man-made that's causing it.
Old 01-07-2011, 06:48 PM
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Originally Posted by InsaneInDaMembrane View Post
God's just target practicing. Humans are next (I hear).
Thats really funny ... and kinda scary as well.
Old 01-07-2011, 07:56 PM
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The latest I read was about a large amount of turledoves fall dead with a blue streak on their beak. The report attributes this to several possible causes:

Animal death mystery: Two MILLION dead fish wash up in Maryland bay | Mail Online

Another report is about bumble bees dying:

Bumblebees Taking a Nosedive in North America
Old 01-07-2011, 09:45 PM
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ABC Nightline:

On average there are 163 die offs of wild life in the US every year.

Clearly media coverage and irrational fear driven paranoia create silly hysteria.
Old 01-08-2011, 04:45 AM
Location: Texas
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Originally Posted by scgraham View Post
People's mocking is looking more and more foolish as more and more calamities fall on mankind.
Actually I would say the Hal Lindseys and Jack Van Imps of the world are the ones who make fools of themselves (and all those who continue to follow them) despite decades of trying to tie literal world events to the mystical Revelation of St. John - only to see them fail to materialize as speculated.

Of course - this is nothing new:

About 60 CE: Interpreting the Epistles of Paul of Tarsus literally, his writings seem to imply that Jesus would return and usher in a rapture during the lifetime of persons who were living in the middle of the 1st century. More details.
About 90 CE: Saint Clement 1 predicted that the world end would occur at any moment.
2nd Century CE: Prophets and Prophetesses of the Montanist movement predicted that Jesus would return sometime during their lifetime and establish the New Jerusalem in the city of Pepuza in Asia Minor.
365 CE: A man by the name of Hilary of Poitiers, announced that the end would happen that year. It didn't.
375 to 400 CE: Saint Martin of Tours, a student of Hilary, was convinced that the end would happen sometime before 400 CE.
500 CE: This was the first year-with-a-nice-round-number-panic. The antipope Hippolytus and an earlier Christian academic Sextus Julius Africanus had predicted Armageddon at about this year.
968 CE: An eclipse was interpreted as a prelude to the end of the world by the army of the German emperor Otto III.
992: Good Friday coincided with the Feast of the Annunciation; this had long been believed to be the event that would bring forth the Antichrist, and thus the end-times events foretold in the book of Revelation. Records from Germany report that a new sun rose in the north and that as many as 3 suns and 3 moons were fighting. There does not appear to be independent verification of this remarkable event.
1000-JAN-1: Many Christians in Europe had predicted the end of the world on this date. As the date approached, Christian armies waged war against some of the Pagan countries in Northern Europe. The motivation was to convert them all to Christianity, by force if necessary, before Christ returned in the year 1000. Meanwhile, some Christians had given their possessions to the Church in anticipation of the end. Fortunately, the level of education was so low that many citizens were unaware of the year. They did not know enough to be afraid. Otherwise, the panic might have been far worse than it was. Unfortunately, when Jesus did not appear, the church did not return the gifts. Serious criticism of the Church followed. The Church reacted by exterminating some heretics. Agitation settled down quickly, as it later did in the year 2000.
1000-MAY: The body of Charlemagne was disinterred on Pentecost. A legend had arisen that an emperor would rise from his sleep to fight the Antichrist.
1005-1006: A terrible famine throughout Europe was seen as a sign of the nearness of the end.
1033: Some believed this to be the 1000th anniversary of the death and resurrection of Jesus. His second coming was anticipated. Jesus' actual date of execution is unknown, but is believed to be in the range of 27 to 33 CE.
1147: Gerard of Poehlde decided that the millennium had actually started in 306 CE during Constantine's reign. Thus, the world end was expected in 1306 CE.
1179: John of Toledo predicted the end of the world during 1186. This estimate was based on the alignment of many planets.
1205: Joachim of Fiore predicted in 1190 that the Antichrist was already in the world, and that King Richard of England would defeat him. The Millennium would then begin, sometime before 1205.
1284: Pope Innocent III computed this date by adding 666 years onto the date the Islam was founded.
1346 and later: The black plague spread across Europe, killing one third of the population. This was seen as the prelude to an immediate end of the world. Unfortunately, the Christians had previously killed a many of the cats, fearing that they might be familiars of Witches. The fewer the cats, the more the rats. It was the rat fleas that spread the black plague.
1496: This was approximately 1500 years after the birth of Jesus. Some mystics in the 15th century predicted that the millennium would begin during this year.
1524: Manyastrologers predicted the imminent end of the world due to a world wide flood. They obviously had not read the Genesis story of the rainbow.
1533: Melchior Hoffman predicted that Jesus' return would happen a millennium and a half after the nominal date of his execution, in 1533. The New Jerusalem was expected to be established in Strasbourg, Germany. He was arrested and died in a Strasbourg jail.
1669: The Old Believers in Russia believed that the end of the world would occur in this year. 20 thousand burned themselves to death between 1669 and 1690 to protect themselves from the Antichrist.
1689: Benjamin Keach, a 17th century Baptist, predicted the end of the world for this year.
1736: British theologian and mathematician William Whitson predicted a great flood similar to Noah's for OCT-13 of this year.
1792: This was the date of the end of the world calculated by some believers in the Shaker movement.
1794: Charles Wesley, one of the founders of Methodism, thought Doomsday would be in this year.
1830: Margaret McDonald, a Christian prophetess, predicted that Robert Owen would be the Antichrist. Owen helped found New Harmony, IN.
Old 01-08-2011, 04:53 AM
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Originally Posted by allenk893 View Post
No Ilene. It was actually a bit more graphic than that. I simply omitted and edited my post because I didn't want it to be too gruesome and offesive towards unbelievers. But since you claim it's from Left Behind...Not only did this man see people trying to stab themselves with knives, pencils, and needles, he saw people pulling out their eye sockets and bashing their heads into concrete and falling off of buildings and cliffs and trying to drown themselves in water but water never drowning them. He saw the people that tried to bash their heads in concrete, heads cut open and bodies disfigured, bloodied from impact. He saw bones bare and open from cuts in the flesh. I think I remember he said he saw body organs too. I never watched Left Behind but I did read the series and none of that stuff was in it!! I was really trying to be nice Ilene.
This man needs to remember to take his meds.
Old 01-08-2011, 05:11 AM
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Originally Posted by firstborn888 View Post
This man needs to remember to take his meds.
So now it has come down to who is taking their med's..... sad indeed !!
Old 01-08-2011, 05:16 AM
Location: Texas
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Originally Posted by Cyber Munchkin View Post
So now it has come down to who is taking their med's..... sad indeed !!
I know, right?
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