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Old 01-11-2011, 01:58 AM
 
Location: Tampa
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whatever......... the point is the actions of McVeigh and the AZ nut are political, they are making political statements not religious statements; albeit, a bit extreme, but an unmentionable condition caused by chemical imbalances in the brain likely contributed to the extreme consequences.

Fred Phelps and his gang of knuckle draggers, now that is religious motivated, not my speculation but according to Fred Phelps. Chemical imbalance in the brain? Unknown
Hey asheville, Christians where on the front line blocking their protest of war deceased and other events that this cult protested at.
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Old 01-11-2011, 04:39 AM
 
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It seems that the "Christian" status of Timothy McVeigh has been a source of controversy for years:
McVeigh No Christian; Worshipped Himself; Said “Science Is My Religion”

Also, his last words were reported to be... "I am the master of my fate, the guardian of my soul..." Doesn't sound like something a Theist would say, and particularly not a Christian Theist.
Timothy McVeigh - Famous Last Words of Timothy McVeigh
Yeah, a vague poem makes proves McVeigh wasn't a Christian, but requesting and receiving last rites doesn't mean anything...

McVeigh took last rites before execution - CNN
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Old 01-11-2011, 07:43 AM
 
Location: Maryland
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Would I as a Christian;
Stand outside a bar, and yell DRUNKS?
Go to a mental institution and yell CRAZIES?
Go to an abortion clinic and yell MURDERER?

That would, in my opinion, be the essence of evil.

EVERYONE deserves our Love.
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Old 01-11-2011, 07:48 AM
 
Location: Somewhere
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Why the discussion as to whether McVeigh was a Christian or not. He killed a bunch of innocent people. Obviously he wasn't a Christian. Calling yourself Christian doesn't make one a Christian. Calling myself the President of the United States doesn't make me the President of the United States. Do we really need to have this type of discussion? Isn't this obvious?
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Old 01-11-2011, 09:45 AM
 
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Why the discussion as to whether McVeigh was a Christian or not. He killed a bunch of innocent people. Obviously he wasn't a Christian. Calling yourself Christian doesn't make one a Christian. Calling myself the President of the United States doesn't make me the President of the United States. Do we really need to have this type of discussion? Isn't this obvious?
Are you saying that christians don't kill Their own god has killed millions!
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Old 01-11-2011, 10:18 AM
 
Location: SC Foothills
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Are you saying that christians don't kill Their own god has killed millions!
People who "claim" to be Christians kill.....Christians do not kill.
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Old 01-12-2011, 03:24 PM
 
Location: Italy
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Would I as a Christian;
Stand outside a bar, and yell DRUNKS?
Go to a mental institution and yell CRAZIES?
Go to an abortion clinic and yell MURDERER?

That would, in my opinion, be the essence of evil.

EVERYONE deserves our Love.
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People who "claim" to be Christians kill.....Christians do not kill.


Blessings!
Brian
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Old 01-12-2011, 03:54 PM
 
Location: Miami, FL
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Once again - the Freakish Face of Christian Fundamentalism Prepares to Bite it's prey . . .
How come you and Ashville Native make an attempt to associate this group with Christian believers?
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Old 01-12-2011, 04:19 PM
 
Location: Florida
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How come you and Ashville Native make an attempt to associate this group with Christian believers?
I can only answer for myself. I "associate this group" with Christianity because it it the Westboro BAPTIST church, and as such, they are dragging the name of God and Christ through the mud on a regular basis which I find appalling. I don't like to see people acting shamefully in the NAME of GOD. It bothers me.
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Old 01-12-2011, 04:28 PM
 
Location: Cleveland, Ohio
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I can only answer for myself. I "associate this group" with Christianity because it it the Westboro BAPTIST church, and as such, they are dragging the name of God and Christ through the mud on a regular basis which I find appalling. I don't like to see people acting shamefully in the NAME of GOD. It bothers me.
Well, Heartsong, I wanted to stay out of this thread only because I seem to lose my center when I think about this group, but I'm glad to report the AZ legislature is finally dealing with this "church".

Here's some good news:


The Arizona Legislature has approved emergency legislation to head off picketing by a Topeka, Kan., church at the funeral service for a 9-year-old girl who was killed during Saturday's shooting in Tucson. Lawmakers Ban Protests Near Tucson Funerals - Phoenix News Story - KPHO Phoenix
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