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Old 02-03-2011, 08:55 PM
 
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Thank you i have read it, once again that is someone assumptions, I ask that you reread post #4 (provable) not assumptions, or maybe this or maybe, that that is were we all will get lost.
They are not assumptions. Here is just one example from the first site.

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1. Who went to the tomb – Matthew says Mary Magdalene and ‘the other Mary’, Mark adds Salome, Luke indicates at least five women went, while John tells us Mary Magdalene went alone?

Answer: John 20:1 says that Mary went to the tomb, but notice that in John 20:2 she says to Peter and John that ‘we do not know where they have laid him’, implying that there were others. So, it is untrue to say that John’s Gospel records that Mary turned up ‘alone’. Just because Matthew, Mark or Luke do not exhaustively list the names of the women does not mean that they are contradicting each other. Writers often need to generalise instead of being specific, for brevity’s sake.
AWOL: Andrew Wilson Online - Do the Resurrection Accounts Contradict Each Other? (http://aww.nttext.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=158&Item id=1 - broken link)




Each of the gospel writers wrote from their own perspective and put into their gospel account those things which they wished to emphasize. Therefore there are variations in the different gospels without any contradictions. One gospel includes certain details while omitting others and another gospel will focus on yet other details.

It really is just that simple.
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Old 02-03-2011, 09:05 PM
 
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One other, where do we get the concept that those are the word of God with in the new test. and this is proof as to when we assume or assumption are being made.
Refer to post #87 in the following thread.

http://www.city-data.com/forum/relig...confusing.html
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Old 02-03-2011, 09:27 PM
 
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Refer to post #87 in the following thread.

http://www.city-data.com/forum/relig...confusing.html
Justifications!! you are the man. we can go on and on.
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Old 02-04-2011, 03:36 AM
 
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Justifications!! you are the man. we can go on and on.
No we can't. Having explained it to you, it is up to you to understand that there are no contradictions in the gospels. And it is up to you to understand that the entire Bible is the word of God just as it declares itself to be. If you are unwilling to come to that understanding, then you will remain a skeptic. Believe what you will.
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Old 02-04-2011, 06:17 AM
 
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Thanks for the sites Mike and for your post. It always comes down to faith that God's word is the truth. You accept it or reject it. The choice is yours.
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Old 02-04-2011, 08:27 AM
 
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No we can't. Having explained it to you, it is up to you to understand that there are no contradictions in the gospels. And it is up to you to understand that the entire Bible is the word of God just as it declares itself to be. If you are unwilling to come to that understanding, then you will remain a skeptic. Believe what you will.
Thank you very much.
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Old 02-04-2011, 08:30 AM
 
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MIKE555
Thanks for the sites Mike and for your post. It always comes down to faith that God's word is the truth. You accept it or reject it. The choice is yours.
You're welcome Katiemygirl. Faith is not a blind faith, but is confidence built on evidence. The evidence of the veracity of the Bible is seen in the many fulfilled prophecies of the Bible. The very existence of the Jews attests to the fact that the Bible is the word of God. Ever since Satan learned that the Messiah would come into the world through the Jewish race he has tried to destroy the Jews. God has made certain promises to the Jews that are to be fulfilled at the return of Jesus Christ at the end of the tribulation. In order to prevent God from fulfilling those promises and thus proving Him to be unable to do what He promises He will do, Satan continues his attempts to destroy the Jewish race. He will never be able to do so. The fact that the nation Israel once again exists after almost two thousand years of having not existed is further proof. When Jesus returns to the earth, He will return to an already existing nation Israel. Currently, some of the Jews are back in Israel though in a state of unbelief. The judgments of the tribulation will cause the Jews to realize that Jesus is the Messiah who they had rejected. They will come to this recognition and Jesus will then return to them as per Matthew 23:37-39 Then all the Jews will be regathered to Israel in a state of belief.

Those are matters of external evidence. But the internal evidence is the common grace ministry of the Holy Spirit at the point of gospel hearing where God the Holy Spirit convicts the gospel hearer of the sin of unbelief, and of righteousness, and of judgment (John 16:8-11). This conviction can be resisted resulting in rejection of the gospel message, or it can be listened to and believed. It is up to the hearer of the gospel.
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Old 02-04-2011, 03:45 PM
 
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Which of these accounts is telling the truth about jesus crucifixion? Matt.28:1-20, Mark 16:1-19, Luke 24:1-52, or John 20:1-18, surly all of them can be true.
You cannot liken the the Synoptic Gospels (Matthew, Mark or Luke) as historical documents, written by contemporary historians or journalist. The are the compilations of handed down narratives from the respective apostles. In short they are as true as the memory of their authors. One must remember that the all three of these Gospels were codified, from possibly multiple texts and oral accounts many years after Matthew, Mark and Luke died with Mark being written in 60-70 CE, Matthew, 70-80 CE and Luke somewhere around 80 CE.
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