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Old 01-11-2011, 09:19 AM
 
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Notice never in the Bible is "Repent or Perish" meant to say "Believe Christ died for your sins or you will perish."

 
Old 01-11-2011, 09:25 AM
 
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It is just so beautiful I am speachless Repent or Perish.... I take up my cross daily.... I repent even while I sin....there is a thorn in my side but His grace will abound

You should be ashamed of yourself, you make me want to cry but I still cant. I am overwelmed by the spirit.

Yes she should, what your feeling is not the spirit it is the horrid religious guilt trip heaped upon you and since you believe there is a pit of hell, if there is one, that is right where it is from.

It can be construed that scripture has convicted you so that you see your horrible self, but that is wrong.

The scriptures are there to help you recognize that God says you are worth something and because of that worth, you can be empowered to become better than you already are, not to wallow in guilt which is only defeating you spiritually.

The reason this works on your emotions is because you have been tricked in to thinking God is like a man who is there tapping his foot at your every discretion and now because of Verna you are again tricked into thinking you are so displeasing to God and must feel ashamed and wallow in it.

God already knows your imperfect, he already knows that you will mess up, we all do. God is there to lift you up, religion will defeat your spirit, reject it and find freedom.
 
Old 01-11-2011, 10:34 AM
 
Location: Gaston, North Carolina
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Yes she should, what your feeling is not the spirit it is the horrid religious guilt trip heaped upon you and since you believe there is a pit of hell, if there is one, that is right where it is from.

It can be construed that scripture has convicted you so that you see your horrible self, but that is wrong.

The scriptures are there to help you recognize that God says you are worth something and because of that worth, you can be empowered to become better than you already are, not to wallow in guilt which is only defeating you spiritually.

The reason this works on your emotions is because you have been tricked in to thinking God is like a man who is there tapping his foot at your every discretion and now because of Verna you are again tricked into thinking you are so displeasing to God and must feel ashamed and wallow in it.

God already knows your imperfect, he already knows that you will mess up, we all do. God is there to lift you up, religion will defeat your spirit, reject it and find freedom.
You misunderstand, I am already free and heve been my entire life, yes I have backsliden many times but it is this world that has lied to us all.

Again you misunderstand, God is my Father and He pick me up when I fall and He destroys my enemies. I have no pity for His enemies as I have been His enemy many times yet He still forgives me because I seek Him and love Him.

God already knows I am perfect but make mistakes and He is there to correct me and set me straight and I am willing to let Him do just that, Are you?
 
Old 01-11-2011, 10:44 AM
 
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You misunderstand, I am already free and heve been my entire life, yes I have backsliden many times but it is this world that has lied to us all.

Again you misunderstand, God is my Father and He pick me up when I fall and He destroys my enemies. I have no pity for His enemies as I have been His enemy many times yet He still forgives me because I seek Him and love Him.

God already knows I am perfect but make mistakes and He is there to correct me and set me straight and I am willing to let Him do just that, Are you?
just stop watching naked folks enjoy themselves and you'll be o.k..
 
Old 01-11-2011, 10:46 AM
 
Location: Gaston, North Carolina
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just stop watching naked folks enjoy themselves and you'll be o.k..
LOL
 
Old 01-11-2011, 11:30 AM
 
Location: On a road heaven bound !
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just stop watching naked folks enjoy themselves and you'll be o.k..
LOL.... sorry, but you are way to funny, gabfest !

We truly do need to laugh more around here.... !!! not at one another's short comings, but LAUGH !!

Please Robyn do NOT take my "LOL" personally or offensively ! As I have struggles in my own life and do know a brother in need..... and will definitely keep your struggle in my prayer's !! Blessings to you...
 
Old 01-11-2011, 11:37 AM
 
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yet He still forgives me because I seek Him and love Him.

I don't misunderstand if that is what you believe, I know that idea well. We do come to a point of seek and love, but it is ONLY because God loves us first, not the other way around. When you believe it is of you first, you are wallowing in guilt whether you realize it or not right now.
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Are you?

God has freed me indeed.
 
Old 01-11-2011, 02:25 PM
 
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What's funny about this thread is that it's all a lie and your aptly named title is the only truth you've spit out since you made it. That's what's extremely funny to me. When people who listen to you die and go to Hell for unrepentent hearts, they'll think of you everyday and how you tricked them into believing a false prosperity gospel. Total shame. And I can post many different bible verses to argue against your lie of universalism but I'm not going to waste my time. You know I can, don't test me because I already handled Marlbron. But I won't because you read the bible everyday apparently. You know the truth. You just can't accept it. Not my problem.

Last edited by Miss Blue; 01-11-2011 at 02:52 PM.. Reason: Allan, Verna is the op of this thread not a Universalist. OK?
 
Old 01-11-2011, 02:38 PM
 
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it is terrible to waste this life fearing torment. i did it for long time and still could not measure up to some of the fundies' expectations (well really any of them) they still looked down their noses at me. well, now i don't want in their club at all and i feel physically/mentally better. i found out gabfest wasn't so bad after i got away from those reassuring me that i was and that i did not deserve the Eternal God's love (unless i learned how to play spiritual simon says).
 
Old 01-11-2011, 05:24 PM
 
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LOL, I am a firm believer in "Pray without ceasing" so even when I sin I still pray.

Do you know all your sins? Even the smallest to the largest? I have an addiction to porn that I have prayed daily for release from this sin but God only says "Patience". That is my big sin, what is yours? And please dont think I am attacking because I am not, I am opening up, will you?
hahaha,that one gets me too mate,no i dont think your attacking me and i wasnt tryin to attack you either,i just think that if we sin(and bear in mind that i beleive that sin verys from -no harm at all(bar spiritual harm to ourselves)like watchin porn,its harming no-one bar maybe your spiritual progress into purity)and then sin that harms,like hurting babies and old folk to be at the worst of it)but as i was saying if we sin and keep saying God forgive me,then keep on doing it,then our repentance is a little insincere,i just think we need to be more honest with ourselves then we can become more honest with God,so lets take our little thing,porn,God knows that we feel guilty and shouldnt be doin it,but if we keep saying ''sorry,i wont do it again,sorry i wont do it again'',over and over without stoping,thern we become liars,,,,,i think it would be better to say''Lord I know i shouldnt be doin this it is bad for my spiritual progress,but in time i will sort it out'',,,,,

now im not questioning your relationship with God,or saying that this is hat you are doing,i admire your honesty and feel that you artre out straight with it,what you say to Him is between you and him,im just tryin to put into perspective what many christians do-sorry for this ,sorry for that,but they dont mean it.and use Jesus as a skapegoat for sinning.

hope you have a peacfull one Robin,i heard you had a bit of a hard time their last year and im glad your feelin alot better,and able to look at some good porn again,hahaha,only jokin pal.
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